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Dogs portrait - pyrography
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Thank you very much Art. I did some research before buying my cheapie tool so made sure it had a temperature control. That said, I always use it on Max and wish I could make it hotter. I much prefer the look of the sort of burner you have but didn't want to spend a lot in case I didn't get on very well. I won't post any of my pieces here as I don't want to hi-jack your thread but maybe I could post something in the Gallery.
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In response to your thoughts about highlighting the eyes: there are few white pencils that would achieve a satisfactory result, I think. Maybe a white gel pen, or even a spot of white acrylic, would be possible?
If it were my piece, though (no chance of that, I don't do pyrography, but still...) I think I'd be inclined to leave it as it is: that white spot in eyes is rarely as dead white as we sometimes assume when we're painting it, and you wouldn't want to achieve the hound-dogs of Hell look.
However, others may well differ.
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Thank you very much Art. I did some research before buying my cheapie tool so made sure it had a temperature control. That said, I always use it on Max and wish I could make it hotter. I much prefer the look of the sort of burner you have but didn't want to spend a lot in case I didn't get on very well. I won't post any of my pieces here as I don't want to hi-jack your thread but maybe I could post something in the Gallery.You see John - by controlling temperature you making lighter or darker strokes - read it *shading or midtones. If you keep it on full max, then I'm confused of how to control the above matter? Hot tip makes nothing but burned spot (in my case), so I can simply imagine having no fur, but burnt spots instead (lol 😅)... I don't remember how much I spent to get mine tool, but it cannot be overwhelming I bet, as I'm all my life struggling with money (lol 😅). And - it's alright to post your efforts for sure! This is so friendly community, and once you post it - you won't ever regret it, because of so many enthusiastic comments you'll get! Best regards!
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In response to your thoughts about highlighting the eyes: there are few white pencils that would achieve a satisfactory result, I think. Maybe a white gel pen, or even a spot of white acrylic, would be possible? If it were my piece, though (no chance of that, I don't do pyrography, but still...) I think I'd be inclined to leave it as it is: that white spot in eyes is rarely as dead white as we sometimes assume when we're painting it, and you wouldn't want to achieve the hound-dogs of Hell look. However, others may well differ.After reading your keen advice Robert, I'm thinking you're very right! The addition of the white marker, or anything else may will look like an UFO at the middle of football game... It can be distractive, and not matching the style of the whole artwork. I did it before - on graphite drawing, and I've added white marker (sort off) - it wasn't matching anything (the whites), and it ruined the harmony of the whole art - I did bin it. It's very good advice Robert. Thank you! Art.
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Art, I suspect the need for maximum temperature is down to the tool not getting very hot (cheap model) or, more likely, my inexperience. I'll certainly experiment more with mid-range heat and see how I get on. In the meantime, this is my latest experiment and, since you've mentioned them, I'm very aware of how I've created the fur with dots. I've much to learn and will be watching your efforts with much interest.
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Ohhhh - It's the wooden panel - that's right, the wood requires more heat than paper...
Sorry, I'm not using wood anymore, thus I totally ignored it to mention...
My bad!
I didn’t like wood, because even though the surface is polished, and looking smooth, the wood's pattern is always there, and guides the tip of the tool sometimes - affecting the curve of the stroke you wanted to make...
Furthermore I've found the fading issue, which was irritating me too much.
Your today's dark tones becoming not so dark within few days, so you have to come back to your art over again, to maintain the darks...
Another cons (to my preference) is insufficient contrast between the surface and the burnt artwork...
Add on top of that the fading effect - and you’ll know why I stopped bothering about the wood.
The paper page on the other hand has few benefits I do appreciate.
- it does requires less heat.
- it doesn't guide unnecessarily the tip, as the structure of the paper page is equally made
- the contrast is spot on! Because it's white!
The midtones can be achieved much easier then, shading is visible and you can take an advantage of having this under control
- unfortunately there is one cons - the paper page will lose its straight appearance after you heat it with the tip.
Not, it's not too bad, I can accept it, especially bearing in mind the artwork will be framed, so all these imperfections of the surface won't be too pronounced.
Do you know what I'm trying describe John?
Let's imagine getting the paper wet, and then make it dry out - it will lose its original flat shape...
The same effect you’ll observe when burning your art on it.
Your lion is spot on to my eyes John.
You've nicely made the midtones too, so the whole artwork is pleasing to look at.
I can see your patience throughout, the fur, the *crown, the lion's face ...
It does look very nice to me.
Try it on the paper now...
I bet you will find one benefit for sure - I'm talking about shading and midtones here.
So the head (skull) of the lion you will be able make even more 3 dimensional then, do you know I mean my friend.
Because of an advantage of the white background.
Paper will give you an advantage of high contrast and you may will benefit of working within the midtones even more...
Best regards.
Art.
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by PogArt Ti
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Ah!! It never occurred to me that you were working on paper, in fact, I didn't even know it was possible. That explains everything. I understand exactly what you're describing with regards to the tip of the iron following the grain of the wood. It's really annoying. As for the dark tones becoming less dark over time, that's not something I've noticed, though as a novice, none of my pieces have stood around for long.
Thank you very much for explaining everything so well .... it's greatly appreciated.
Best regards
John
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Hi dear friends...
I've been focusing on lighter dog today.
I've improved his chest, and LHS of the face, an ear.
The ear is missing from the reference I'm follow, so I've sort off made it up to look alright (shhhh - it's top secret!)
Do you think I've managed to draw this ear realistically?
I hope you like it...
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by PogArt Ti
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Yes, I think you've got the ear right - the great saving grace with dogs' ears is that most of them are floppy, so you've got a bit of leeway! I think you're approaching the point at which this is done now - I'm getting nervous about you making that final touch which will ruin it! Oh me of little faith....
