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Boy I Have A Lot to say, but I will Try To Be Brief... Yes I know there are some People On This Website, Who Try to pass off Digitally Altered Photos as Paintings, And that is very wrong.. I could name names, because it is easy to spot.. All the blurryness and Artifacting is a dead give a way. I won't name names. because I don't want to out anyone as a fraud... As for Digital Art being a different medium, it is... and it isn't.. It Just uses some different tools. There are literally thousands of tools to use.. When I paint Digitally, which is most of my paintings now, I may be holding a stylus pen painting on a Computer or a drawing tablet while looking at my Computer screen, but the Artistic Techniques are all the same.. Example.. Putting in your darks before your lights, blending, understanding complimentary colors.. etc etc.. When I use a digital oil brush, it is a brush specifically created to work and emulate a traditional oil brush. Same as a digital watercolor brush or impasto brush or Palette knife... When I post one of my Digital painting, I check the digital box and all the other boxes of the type of brushes or pens represented that I use to create that painting. .. All of them being Digital.. digital oil, digital airbrush, digital watercolor....etc because they all work the same way... I try to be comprehensive and accurate... Now the women I paint, are not super-enhanced... There are plenty of real world women who are actually that beautiful and in shape.. They are just beautiful women.. I love to celebrate the beauty that is women.. Everyone should... Whether or not they are in Victorian dress, semi nude, bikinis, mermaids, Vampires or whatever... Not Porn or too adult... If I make them special or place them in a Fantasy setting, that is what makes Fantasy Art.. Fantasy Art.. It is for the Imagination... Personally, I think everyone should be painting in Digital... It's cheap, clean, easy to correct mistakes and soooo versatile.. Way better than traditional mediums... In My experienced Opinion. I am currently working on a Male Elf Warrior fantasy painting for Carol Jones.. She wanted something for the ladies, so he won't be wearing a shirt... I hope you all like it, if all goes well... It will not be porn, or too adult.. Just a beautiful Fantasy Painting that I hope all can enjoy... Unless your an English Person who is really uptight about anything remotely sexy.. not painted in the traditional oil painting style...
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Thank you for the explanation of how you achieve your painting , I’m aware of digital artwork and do like so of it and when I do I comment. Having only attempted a basic painting digitally, it’s a black hole for me , I now have a better understanding of how you work . I agree with your statement about digitally enhancing photos and passing them off as digital artwork, it’s doing this that knocks the digital paintings and unfortunately degrades them. I too wish that they could be banned from the site but that would make it very difficult for genuine digital artist. Whist your description of your work has been good to read , I do think it was unnecessary to make out that English People are the only ones to object to semi nudes etc . Its unfortunate that you did as I’m sure it will cause some offence , hopefully that wasn’t the intention.
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I think your last sentence probably described me to a T!
However, the only quarrel I have with your remarks is the 'should' elements: I don't want to paint in digital media, because I enjoy a different kind of struggle - that with paint, brushes, charcoal etc. There are disadvantages to that - principally, unsold paintings wherever you choose to look, neatly placed to be tripped over. However, that's what I do, and a great many people still do it.
You have been quite clear from the outset that your work is achieved digitally - as have most others here; one always made it clear in the past and has ceased to do so, probably assuming, correctly, that we've all got the message by now. I do see the attraction - on the whole, I don't particularly appreciate the results - but really, so what? If that's a problem, it's mine not the artists'. What you are doing is not AI - and it's AI which represents the problem, about which many young artists trying to break through using traditional means are concerned.
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Digital is just another medium, and it happens to be a wonderful one. There's so much brilliant work being done with it. If I weren't so clumsy around a computer I'd have updated my ancient software and be doing it now. Holding a pen or pencil firmly against my paper is the only way I can work now, but I remember how fascinating digital art was to make and wish I could do it now.
Women are beautiful, artists have always painted them and always will. And that will always offend some people. Everyone gets an opinion.
I look forward to seeing more brilliant digital art on POL, whatever its subject.
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I've just seen Norette's, and Marjorie's, posts about the demeaning of women aspect - for several reasons, not being a woman being one, I'm not sure I'm at all qualified to comment on that; another artist here, who works in conventional oil paint, has been accused of doing that - but his nudes are far deeper in meaning than simply objectifying . It's extremely hard to analyse these things: one person's celebration of female beauty is another person's gratuitous exploitation.
However - if I dislike a painting, I don't comment (which doesn't mean I dislike every painting on which I haven't commented: Lord, the traps you can fall into....).
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‘Personally, I think everyone should be painting in Digital... It's cheap, clean, easy to correct mistakes and soooo versatile.. Way better than traditional mediums... In My experienced Opinion’
Needless to say, and I won’t be alone here, but I don’t agree with your ‘experienced’ opinion Eric. I spent five years at college, up to my neck in turps and oil paint, (life’s blood to me), much of that time was spent in the ‘life room’, where I learned to draw and paint working from real life models, warts and all! - that included both male and female sitters, and not all by any means were ‘supermodels’. Real life isn’t like that…
I enjoyed every minute of this incredible journey into painting, much in the same way that you obviously do on your computer.
I appreciate some digital work providing it’s not simply enhancing a photograph, the likes of which we see every single day on this site… and yes, they’re easily spotted by most, but clearly not by all!
You’re obviously a talented artist in your field, but traditional art is a totally different field… both have their place, but I won’t be taking your advice, and I’ll be sticking with traditional painting for the foreseeable future!
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by Alan Bickley
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No Paul, My Comment on English People was not intended to cause offense.. I love the English, I used to live there, In fact I married one... It was intended for one specific person...
Of course I never thought I would receive such bile and criticism from one person after creating a beautiful and rather tame Fantasy Painting. I don't know why she was so offended I checked the Oil Box in my description... I did after all use Digital Oil Brushes... I guess she does not consider it to be an Oil Painting if I don't use traditional oil brushes on actual canvass.. She also thinks I am Objectifying Women because I painted a beautiful woman wearing a bikini top... I don't think I am... Of course, that is also my opinion... It's not like Millions of other Artist haven't painted the same type of thing... or much worse...
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I paint in watercolour through choice as that’s what was available to me when I first started taking an interest , it’s very possible that if I was doing it now I would look at digital artwork as a option. I’m the late end of my life and computer and relatively new to me , I use a iPad and phone but probably only a fraction of there capabilities my eleven and six year old granddaughters put me right when it going wrong. If we look at this from a historical perspective there was a lot of fuss about watercolour when they starts to become popular from the then traditional oil painters , I’m sure a lot was said about acrylics, to bright a colour , not the same look as oil or water , doesn’t smell right etc but all three are now accepted as standard art forms. Until quite recently people looked down on coloured pencils as a art medium and fobbed it off well they for children or just messing about with not serious artwork. In years to come digital art will be accepted more and will stand alongside conventional artworks, by then something new will come along and have to go through the same acceptance process. Here is were I get shot I do believe it’s also a age thing , new fangled ideas oh dear not right at all , some of it’s because we crumblies don’t really understand it or want to. I don’t single out any person on this site or include anyone but myself in the last statement.
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For Anyone who is having trouble learning digital or would like to start learning, I can tell you what helped me the most.. Maybe you can try it as well... I used to paint in all the traditional mediums, still do sometimes... When I first tried to start learning, I found the easiest way to begin is to create a detailed pencil sketch on paper.. Then I would turn that into a color pencil painting.. Once I got that looking pretty good, I would scan that image into my Computer, and then re-paint that image using digital brushes and using the same colors.. There is a color picking tool to select your colors... I would experiment with what brushes I like the best or worked the best and create a pretty good painting. It would be more vibrant and refined and complete looking.. Not perfect, could always be better... but it was a good easy way to start learning... I still go back and make older painting look better... Art is never finished is it...
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The reason I commented was an effort to ensure that this work does not encourage others to go further. I would like to point out recent research into teenage mental health being severely damaged by poor body image. Some top models have agree to stop the airbrushing.
This article explains the effect on 40% of teens.
https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/explore-mental-health/articles/body-image-report-executive-summary
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by Norrette Moore