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I apologise in advance if this has already been discussed and people are sick of hearing about it...if so please stop reading. To me a painting is something done by smearing a viscous coloured liquid onto a surface, generally using a brush. A piece of artwork done digitally on a computer is not a painting. It is art, it is a piece of artwork, it is often breathtakingly good, but it's not a painting which is why I never comment on digital pictures. They are not paintings. Is it just me? Should something that has not used paint be called a painting? I don't call something a cheese sandwich if there is no cheese in it!   I'd be interested to hear what others think, and again apologies if this is old news. Peter
Spot on Peter..I do think digital work is an art form  but different and not sure what else it could be called ,as you say a cheese butty without cheese is simply a butty, or if posh ,a sandwich.  
I don't practise digital art but from what I've seen the term covers a wide spectrum of generation techniques, from things one might justifiably call 'virtual painting' (mixing and picking up virtual paint with a virtual brush and applying it to a virtual canvas in lieu of the real physical counterparts), all the way through to artefacts generated via high-level commands (eg "tesselate this space with these objects and apply reflectance from a light source over there"). David Hockney has done a fair amount of virtual painting with his iPad and having seen the results I regard that as a form to which the term 'painting' could accurately be applied. I've only ever commented on pieces of this type on POL. I would find it useful if people exhibiting digital art were to say something about their processes.

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I personally don’t do digital artwork, I love the brush in my hand and the colours I front of me so I can mix as I want to. I tend to think of them as digital artwork as opposed to a painting , I do comment on the ones I like occasionally I say well painted, but tend  to say beautifully done . They are not paintings in the traditional sense ie oil , watercolour paint and brush etc but they are paintings created by another means . It’s the creativity of them that I enjoy and a admiration for how they are achieved. 
I admire them, I couldn't do them and I really appreciate the skill that goes into producing them. I just don't think they are paintings. Maybe there should be a separate gallery for digital work? Peter
I bet many years ago artists had a similar discussion and thought about cubism, abstracts etc . I know they used actual paint etc , but it must have been very much against their views of paintings. As I have said I don’t do them and like you admire how they are done and look I understand you view about digital paintings being referred to as a painting, I sometimes think it’s not actually a painting as I know it. Then it doesn’t matter as long as we enjoy what we are looking at and respect the skill needed to achieve the artwork. 
Very true Paul. At the end of the day its all art. Peter
There has been a very interesting discussion today about using AI to create art but it has been shut down before I had the chance to comment. I'm a simple chap, if it was created using a gooey liquid called paint it's a painting, if it wasn't it isn't.  Would the answer be to have a new section of the gallery for digital art so it is separated out from the traditional stuff? I do feel the gallery at times can be a bit overwhelmed with digital stuff. There's nothing wrong with it but at the moment we do seem to be mixing chalk and cheese, Peter
A good suggestion Peter but it would mean a refurbishment of the hole gallery unfortunately it would not be cost effective and would be very disruptive. I’m not going to start the discussion over again about digital artwork v conventional art , the issue was with photos manipulated to look like paintings  a lot different from digital work . Hope this helps without going into a long discussion. 
Fair enough Paul. Peter
I thought pastel art works were also called paintings these days (and that’s not gooey liquid). A pencil work would be a drawing. But if it’s coloured, is it still a drawing? Pen and ink… is it drawing or painting… or both. 
Pen and ink is a drawing… of this I’m positive! Not sure about pastel though!  Theoretically it should be a drawing, as the definition of painting is ‘the act or process of using paint’ or something like that!

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