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Never heard of Davey's Grey. How does it differ from Payne's Grey Robert ?.
Lovely sketches Gillian. I've used the Davey's grey only a couple of times. It's like a mid to light warm grey Sylvia, that's how I would describe it. Not one I use much.
I have used Davies grey and decided I didn’t like it. I don’t use Payne’s to darken colours I use in diluted for smoke with a bit of brown to make it look dirty. I find it can be used almost so diluted it looks almost invisible near it quite deadly in a painting over powers everything. I so add a thin wash and add other colours just before it dry it doesn’t chance the top colour a great deal . It great for the weathered look on ships and steam engines etc , plus the rigging. I can understand why it not used very much and certainly would not suggest that it’s a must have colour in every paint box. 
Never heard of Davey's Grey. How does it differ from Payne's Grey Robert ?.
Sylvia Evans on 24/05/2022 03:55:36
Davey's Grey is a sort of mid tone grey, something and nothing really. I bought a half pan some years ago for a project and not used it since.

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Thanks everyone.
Another sketch from Castillejár  on a riverside walk
I have started to use neutral tint in watercolour, so I am more in control of the temperature of greys.  If I want a blue grey for shadows, I use blue plus the base colour that is in shadow.  But mostly I use blue and brown mixtures for the greys.
On the Isle of Mull, there are two bird hides.  I found one really useful to set up and sketch.  Almost plein air, but more comfortable and out of the rain.  Not too many passers by either.  So here is the sketch!
I agree with you re the blue and browns Linda you can make some nice colour mixes with them . The blue and the base colours work well,  I have fallen foul  occasionally due to heavy handedness I’m occasionally really good  a making a mud colour particularly when I don’t want  to.  
 I’m occasionally really good  a making a mud colour particularly when I don’t want  to.  
Paul  (Dixie) Dean on 24/05/2022 18:08:36
You're not on your own, Dixie :)
Nice to have a bit of time to pop something in- Had a go at the pen and wash article in the July Leisure Painter, Stephen Coates -here goes-
The Davey's Grey question has been answered - i.e. what is it; what I've never understood is WHY is it?  I have a tube of it which I fear will still be as full when they carry me out feet first as it is today; I can't think of a single use for it, and in mixes - well, the results would make you feel ill.  It must have a use - I'd like to know what that is. Greys can be mixed, as most of us will know of course, with Ultramarine and Burnt Sienna; Hooker's Green and just about any red; Viridian and Permanent Rose/Quinacridone red/magenta/violet; so long as you've got blue, red, and yellow/orange in there, you'll get a grey - some of which will be vaguely disgusting, but just about all of which could be useful in different contexts.  The least satisfactory grey is black and white - unless you're painting the Scharnhorst or HMS Hood - and even then, I still wouldn't use b & w.  
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