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I think working quickly with colour is a great exercise and I am a total sucker for a sunset or sunrise! Nicely done Paul! I was practicing little figures and groups of figures to start adding to my pictures as I have always shied away from them . Then I started a drawing of my late dear friend who died here in Spain very suddenly during lockdown, Since. I have returned back she has been very close to mind so here she is

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Yes I have read a lot of artists berating it but I do occasionally use it and when I first started painting ( with watercolour) I did use it in skies as our teacher said there was a time and place for paynes grey so not to be put off from using it by others. Thanks for kind comment about Sally
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A nice way to remember your friend Gillian... I'm afraid I ama berator of Payne's Gray..
Though I have used it very occasionally when I need a pinpoint dark.
Otherwise I mix my darks and shadows from whatever colours I have used in the painting.
Sorry Paul. A no no for skies in my opinion....challenge ....mix your dark biits blues,browns, reds, and sorry Michael a splodge of purple. Much more fun to mix cos you don't know what you are going to get.
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by Sylvia Evans
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Sylvia I must admit that nowadays acrylics are my favourite medium and have never used paynes grey or any black when using them and use other colours for shadows etc who knows what I will be up to if I ever go back to watercolours! This little scene amused me on my little stroll this evening … the mind boggles! 

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Rowland Hilder used Paynes Grey, and Lamp Black, and Neutral Tint - but you need to look at his paintings - they tended to be fairly dark, well-defined, but rarely startlingly bright. Payne's Grey works very well on toned paper, and with ink. I'm not keen on it on white paper though: it can look like wet soot. I use it with great caution, but it can certainly come into its own: Sylvia's paintings are usually vibrant and full of colour - I'd not encourage her in the direction of Payne's Grey! It's horses for courses really - if you can mix your darks without adding greys from the tube, I think they do work better - if you use inks and strong darks in your paintings, on the other hand. Payne's and Lamp Black deserve their place.
Incidentally - I loathe Davey's Grey - I have never yet found a use for it; while I'm not primarily a watercolourist (in which medium it's more usually available) has ANYONE found it's done anything for them?

