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Some interesting (and good) sketches and works in progress here. Looking forward to the finished works.
I've had several attempts at making a larger picture over the last few weeks. In each case, I've lost interest and abandoned the ideas. Nothing new and not a problem. I cut them up and use the backs to make smaller pics...like the 6 x 4 inch pics I've been doing lately. So I've decided to approach it from a different angle, and do 'studies' for the various parts of the big picture. The 'studies' will be done 6 x 4 inch size, which don't take long. I can then assemble them in photoshop to see if I really like the idea to produce the larger picture...it'll be 60 x 70 cms. I have a frame that size...IF the picture is any good. Nothing new about doing studies, except it's not something I've done. Normally I draw rough layouts, but that hasn't been working so well lately...hence several false starts.
The idea is an old sailor remembering his life. Here's the 6 x 4 inch study...I already know I'll make him look a bit more cheerful...
He'll be on the right of the picture, his memories will occupy the rest...here's a layout pic in proportion to the size of the final picture...
Hopefully now I've said all this, I'll actually DO it. (If not, I'll finish the little 6 x 4s and have something to show for my efforts.)
He'll be on the right of the picture, his memories will occupy the rest...here's a layout pic in proportion to the size of the final picture...
Hopefully now I've said all this, I'll actually DO it. (If not, I'll finish the little 6 x 4s and have something to show for my efforts.)
I did a long time ago, 1983. It is a pencil sketch in a Daler 7"X5" sketch pad and has become a little bit grubby. I might try to repaint this.
Posted
I decided to try a larger scale pen and pastel sketch, normally I do around A5 but tried A4 , decided it not for me as it seems harder to maintain the looseness. What I mean is as it becomes bigger it starts to look untidy and scribble where asap the A5 size it look much better. I have to admit that I find it difficult work loosely and want to add details , I wasn’t going to post these two but thought it would be useful to share my experience.
Posted
A good idea to sketch on coloured paper Paul, something I intend to try.
I'm a bit up the creek with that picture I was planning. I showed it earlier in this thread. Perhaps not the right thread. Should have been a WIP, but as I started it here, I'll finish it here.
Here's where I got before...
...this is the layout format. The idea is an old sailor's memories. It was to include a couple of ships he'd served on, hints of places he'd visited, and (because he's a sailor), a few of his girlfriends. I get these ideas, they seem a great idea, but transferring the idea to paper doesn't always work. This one hasn't.
The plan was to do a few small quickish studies (about 6 x 4 inch size, so the studies don't take too long), to arrange them in photoshop and see if it was worth doing the bigger picture. Doing studies like this is NOT a new idea, lots of artists do it, but I haven't. My layout ideas for something like this normally take the form of very scribbly sketches. I wanted a ship, and albatross, and at least ONE girl...here they are....
...then I tried the ship and bird in my layout image. Here it is...
...OK-ish, but a bit bland. Might work with a headland behind the ship and some seagulls in a decent sky. Don't like the albatross for this pic.
So now I put the girls in the picture...
...I've made the ship bigger. They'd be three DIFFERENT girls, here I've copied the same girl and adjusted colour to get an idea how they might look. AN ABSOLUTE NO TO THIS!!
What if, I thought, I used ONE girl, very large, and next to him...she's big because she's a big memory...
...err...derr...NO!
(I should say to those unfamiliar with digital, that although the various elements appear as ONE image, each bit (the sailor, the ship etc, etc) are each of a different layer, so you can move, resize, change colour etc, for one part without affecting the others. It's playtime... the work...making the drawings...has been done.)
So, would she look better in normal size next to him?
No she wouldn't!
What if I made her blue and faded, like some old memory?
NO, no, no...NO! I've chosen the wrong presentation layout for this idea. It would work better MOVIE POSTER style. I like movie posters, I'm a big fan of illustration.
Here's one of my favorite poster artists. Drew Struzan, an old-school illustrator. He worked with all mediums but chiefly acrylic and coloured pencil. He's considered one of the all time greats of poster and album design (we did something on him in Paul's thread, I think).
Here's another of his...
He gives brilliant glimpses of what the movie is about. This format would work very well for my sailor's memories idea...not that I'll get close to Drew's excellence.
So I'll be coming back to this later. Not sure when, life gets in the way. But I enjoyed fiddling about with this idea, even if nothing has come of this effort.
I've banged on a bit, hope it's of some interest.
...this is the layout format. The idea is an old sailor's memories. It was to include a couple of ships he'd served on, hints of places he'd visited, and (because he's a sailor), a few of his girlfriends. I get these ideas, they seem a great idea, but transferring the idea to paper doesn't always work. This one hasn't.
The plan was to do a few small quickish studies (about 6 x 4 inch size, so the studies don't take too long), to arrange them in photoshop and see if it was worth doing the bigger picture. Doing studies like this is NOT a new idea, lots of artists do it, but I haven't. My layout ideas for something like this normally take the form of very scribbly sketches. I wanted a ship, and albatross, and at least ONE girl...here they are....
...then I tried the ship and bird in my layout image. Here it is...
...OK-ish, but a bit bland. Might work with a headland behind the ship and some seagulls in a decent sky. Don't like the albatross for this pic.
So now I put the girls in the picture...
...I've made the ship bigger. They'd be three DIFFERENT girls, here I've copied the same girl and adjusted colour to get an idea how they might look. AN ABSOLUTE NO TO THIS!!
What if, I thought, I used ONE girl, very large, and next to him...she's big because she's a big memory...
...err...derr...NO!
(I should say to those unfamiliar with digital, that although the various elements appear as ONE image, each bit (the sailor, the ship etc, etc) are each of a different layer, so you can move, resize, change colour etc, for one part without affecting the others. It's playtime... the work...making the drawings...has been done.)
So, would she look better in normal size next to him?
No she wouldn't!
What if I made her blue and faded, like some old memory?
NO, no, no...NO! I've chosen the wrong presentation layout for this idea. It would work better MOVIE POSTER style. I like movie posters, I'm a big fan of illustration.
Here's one of my favorite poster artists. Drew Struzan, an old-school illustrator. He worked with all mediums but chiefly acrylic and coloured pencil. He's considered one of the all time greats of poster and album design (we did something on him in Paul's thread, I think).
Here's another of his...
He gives brilliant glimpses of what the movie is about. This format would work very well for my sailor's memories idea...not that I'll get close to Drew's excellence.
So I'll be coming back to this later. Not sure when, life gets in the way. But I enjoyed fiddling about with this idea, even if nothing has come of this effort.
I've banged on a bit, hope it's of some interest.
Posted
Lew I find it facilitating to see how your are working this out , I’ve ever used digital backgrounds etc but not because I don’t like the idea, it’s another tool in the artist box . I grateful that you have posted it and let us into your thought process and see how you work , interesting definitely is .
