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Hello,  I painted the less colourful version, and wanted to have another go to rectify mistakes, the 2nd one, I just made different mistakes! I've never posted on here, but would very much welcome constructive criticism please.
Well done for posting your paintings Judith , both are nice paintings I have a slight preference fir the darker one . Both are well drawn and the perspiration good, boats are not easy to draw due to the shape of the hulls and the different angles it takes. You have managed that really well. Personally I would have posted them without the mount it distracts the eye from you paintings. You have some really nice paintings in your gallery, your doing really well and I would say continue with what your doing , ask for advice when you need it and look at some of the videos etc that are available on POL. I would suggest that I’d possibly sketch as much as possible,  every day if you can even if it’s a few minutes and draw things around the house . You will be amazed at how soon your paintings improve due to the transferable skills . 
Thanks Paul for your encouragement - I try and sketch or paint everyday - just beginning to engage more with this site, which I have only used for the gallery up to now. There seems to be a great core community with a helpful and friendly atmosphere.
There are a lot of really good people on the forum who are great artists and willing to share their knowledge. Join in any of the conversations , don’t feel that you may not know enough to make a comment, often it’s a person who is new to art that asks the pertinent questions. And most importantly don’t be afraid to say you don’t know and ask why it’s done that way etc. There are several artists on here who have painted for a short period but have developed their skill by asking , why , what , how ,. Denise Cat is one of the people who will openly say that she has gained so much from this site , as we all have , I have by simply exhibiting my paintings and looking at other peoples work and listening to advice etc. . Enjoy you painting journey. 
Lovely paintings Judith, I do prefer the top one. I hadn't been around any art before I joined the site, so was clueless about every aspect and terminology of art. I have been helped very much by the members on the site and often ask questions and often ask for help when I'm struggling to do something, no matter how basic, or silly I might feel it is. The need to learn, prompts me to ask the question. I sketch or paint every day. I often try and run before I can walk and then realise, I've taken on a bit more than I bargained for. The more experienced artists are always on hand to point you in the right direction and answer question so it's good to draw on their knowledge and experience. The tips section has a great selection of exercises also.
Hello Judith, they are both pretty paintings. Perhaps the lighter one, is more in perspective (says she who throws the rule book out the window!) Like Paul mentioned, there are some helpful people on here, Alan Bickley and Robert Jones spring to mind immediately. Most of all….Enjoy what you’re doing. 
I like your comment about correcting mistakes only to make other mistakes - a touch of Beckett's "try again: fail better".  All you need is practice and direct observation - a bit more attention to tonal contrast would serve you well.  Stronger shadows - better indication of where the light is coming from.  There are some very useful demonstrations on YouTube that I think you'd find helpful - Alan Owen, and Charles Evans in particular.  Charles starts with drawing, Alan doesn't, on the whole - two very different ways of making pictures; the processes the two use are different, too: Alan builds up his paintings from very delicate initial washes; Charles, I would say, tends to go in with stronger colour at the outset. Of course there are many other demos on YouTube, on various other channels (eg, the SAA), and on instructional DVDs, but for sheer educational value these are the lads to whom I would unhesitatingly direct anyone learning to paint in watercolour. Of your two paintings, I rather like the second one - it's less constrained by caution and less bothered by staying within the lines.  But the tones are too weak in both of them: more paint!
Lovely paintings Judith, I do prefer the top one. I hadn't been around any art before I joined the site, so was clueless about every aspect and terminology of art. I have been helped very much by the members on the site and often ask questions and often ask for help when I'm struggling to do something, no matter how basic, or silly I might feel it is. The need to learn, prompts me to ask the question. I sketch or paint every day. I often try and run before I can walk and then realise, I've taken on a bit more than I bargained for. The more experienced artists are always on hand to point you in the right direction and answer question so it's good to draw on their knowledge and experience. The tips section has a great selection of exercises also.
Denise Cat on 19/02/2022 10:11:59
Thanks Denise for responding here and to other paintings I have posted. Loads of great advice, which I appreciate.
Hello Judith, they are both pretty paintings. Perhaps the lighter one, is more in perspective (says she who throws the rule book out the window!) Like Paul mentioned, there are some helpful people on here, Alan Bickley and Robert Jones spring to mind immediately. Most of all….Enjoy what you’re doing. 
Ellen Mooney on 19/02/2022 10:17:45
Thanks Ellen, your tips and who to look up, a good project for another wet and windy day.
I like your comment about correcting mistakes only to make other mistakes - a touch of Beckett's "try again: fail better".  All you need is practice and direct observation - a bit more attention to tonal contrast would serve you well.  Stronger shadows - better indication of where the light is coming from.  There are some very useful demonstrations on YouTube that I think you'd find helpful - Alan Owen, and Charles Evans in particular.  Charles starts with drawing, Alan doesn't, on the whole - two very different ways of making pictures; the processes the two use are different, too: Alan builds up his paintings from very delicate initial washes; Charles, I would say, tends to go in with stronger colour at the outset. Of course there are many other demos on YouTube, on various other channels (eg, the SAA), and on instructional DVDs, but for sheer educational value these are the lads to whom I would unhesitatingly direct anyone learning to paint in watercolour. Of your two paintings, I rather like the second one - it's less constrained by caution and less bothered by staying within the lines.  But the tones are too weak in both of them: more paint!
Robert Jones, NAPA on 19/02/2022 11:16:00
Thanks Robert for taking the trouble to respond, I have had some great tips by you all on this thread, and have made a list of the people I need to look up on youtube and here. Really appreciate everyones help. Thank you.
Both have something to offer, and Robert is right about tonal contrast… in my book it’s more important than colour! Actually you have quite a lot of colour in both these, with very little tone. Again, Robert has touched on this, but select a light source and stick rigidly to it - this will help to give a three-dimensional look to your seascape/landscape, which is what we’re trying to achieve. Have a look on ‘techniques’ on this website, go to watercolour… you’ll find lots of helpful ideas to help you progress further.
Alan Thanks for your advice, I have tweaked it following Roberts comments - I've taken so much from the hints made on this thread - the hard bit (but enjoyable ) now is to try to  implement them in future works.
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