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There has been a discussion about digital art on here some time ago, I have been trying to find it but cannot. I think the general consensus of opinion was it was a method of picture making.
One of my art hero's David Hockney is very creative and produces some wonderful work.
I have had an attempt myself but prefer traditional methods.
AI was discussed quite heatedly maybe that is where you have your impression from Eric.!.
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I was one if the initial naysayers about sharing a physical art gallery with digital art. I had requested that a separate category be provided. Imagine yourself being new to paint and paper etc, and then coming on here and not being able to recognise that the "painting" next to yours is not physical. It is demoralising. I speak on behalf of others.
I started my career in IT in the early 1980s and was an early adaptor of the ZX spectrum, teaching myself to code. I joined DeviantArt in its very early days. It is nothing like physical art. It was also becoming formulaic.
My copy of Photoshop elements is almost 20 years old, goodness knows how powerful the new applications are. But even using ancient Elements, I can tell, Eric, from your first example that the lines are a couple of clicks...move it if its wonky...erase it if it's totally wrong. It is infinitely quicker than doing the same on paper or canvas. Other digital artists can start by importing a photograph and disguising it. Much easier than squaring up.
Nonetheless, I don't disparage it, but I do think it should be marked as clearer in the gallery, so that those, less IT experienced than I, can tell its not physical. I like Hockney, but he makes it clear both in his text and in his product, that it is digital,
I don't do digital art anymore, it is less satisfying and involves no emotion.
By the way, your image, Eric, reminds me of the approach to London from the A40 flyover.
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Subject matter can be a clue Sylvia…..incidentally, re previous discussions about digital…I think you’d find, Eric, that most members on here are not against digital at all. They may not want to practise it themselves but are fine about it. Apart from yourself Eric, there are two excellent digital artists that I like on the site - Skylar and Dennis Roberts. After David Hockney experimented with digital I downloaded a fair few apps myself. I have some in my gallery, they were fun to do. I’m at a very basic level and will probably stay there - also, I like the trad methods very much ( nothing to do with age even tho’ I’m a fair bit older than you 🙂).
One more thing….I really don’t think it’s about anyone here being jealous or worried about their art becoming obsolete - most people just enjoy producing art, that won’t change.
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by Marjorie Firth
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II’m in total agreement with Norrette here, and as a graphic designer (now retired), I’m well versed with digital media, but chose not to use it for anything other than graphic design.
That’s because I enjoy the tactile experience of applying paint to a canvas, paper or whatever support I wish to use, but we’ve been here before, and I’m not decrying digital art in its entirety!
It just doesn’t do anything for me emotionally…and I never comment on it - apart from Hockney’s iPad drawings that is, which seem to exhibit a more ‘hands on’ approach akin to drawing. I’ve seen them at the RA and was surprisingly impressed!
As for being envious or jealous of digital media, well I’m certainly not. We had a dubious character on here a short while back, who was trying to convince us that his AI submissions were his own traditional paintings - how ridiculous is that, but incredibly, many on here fell for it and gave him outstanding reviews!
Digital art should be clearly identified as such, but so often it isn’t…
I rest my case…
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by Alan Bickley
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When you upload an item to the gallery, there is a checkbox under ‘Medium’ for Digital paintings. Problem is all those selection checkboxes are not displayed alongside the painting. They seem to be only used to filter items in a gallery search. I think I’ve mentioned this before. Those selections you make when uploading to the gallery should be displayed along with the painting.
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I'm with Alan on this. I use Adobe Illustrator, Photoshop and Corel Painter for graphic design, I started with digital art using the very first version of Coreldraw in the early 90's. I am currently working on a some fabric design. I am far from jealous or against digital art.
What caused the heated debate before was down to someone telling lies. I can spot photo manipulation a mile off. I also find AI very easy to spot: dodgy banana hands with knuckles in the wrong place, six fingers, four fingers, weird thumbs all are an absolute give away. Then there's the strange tiling effects and disconnected artifacts. People just don't like being taken for a fool.
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I was one of the people who took issue with a person who deliberately lied to me about his paintings and told me he had actually painted it , subsequently it turned out to be a lie and eventually the left the site . I often comment on Eric’s work and several other who I know paint digitally my views are very much one of if I like it I will comment if I’m not sure about it being digital or AI I wait and see what other day first . There is a place for digital art and it is a art form all be it one I personally would not want to do but a image that impresses me and it’s honestly labelled should have a comment . As to jealousy I think unfortunately Eric you I’m my opinion worded that badly , I’m not jealous of your art or your skill but I do admire how you do it .
Give me water, paint , paper and brushes and in more than content and I really don’t want to change anything I do other than become better at it. I do wonder why we keep having this type of conversation what’s the issue , has someone made negative comments about digital art if so I’ve missed out on it . Let’s just accept that some folk paint using traditional methods and some don’t , but we are all interested in creating a image that we hope other will like . If you like a image comment I’d you don’t well then don’t comment and just accept thst it’s there on the gallery and the person making it has put a lot of effort and thought into achieving it . People using AI and trying to pull a fast one should be given short shift . Hells bells doesn’t that Paul rant on I hear.
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This is one of those subjects that often comes up. Nothing is ever resolved. I think it's just a few that don't like it, maybe they are more vocal than others. There is a tick-box for digital, and I always ticked it when I uploaded a digital image. I'm not sure if ticking these boxes achieves anything. A search of the gallery is a bit haphazard if you try a search by medium used. I just did a search for 'DIGITAL Art', one or two came up and the rest produced in the search were in other mediums. Nothing of mine came up despite the fact that I have a digital folder with 25 images in my personal gallery...titles like 'Queen of Hearts-Digital' did not appear in the search.
I love digital art. Bring it on. Saying you don't like digital because it's 'digital' is a bit like saying you don't like 'oils'. Neither make sense. It's another medium. You either like or dislike the IMAGE whether it's digital or produced with sharpened carrots. I'd do more myself but I can just about handle a pencil these days.
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Oooh never tried a sharpened carrot Lew 🥕🥕🥕🥕that would create a discussion. A bit discombobulated as everyone who has contributed to this item have had the same view point.
So who are the tiggers in the woodpile who have been stirring things.....and decrying digital art....personally I can't see or think of anyone. Methinks it was the AI debacle .
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Thanks Andrew, I didn't know there was a digital option. But sadly you cannot select digital, it doesnt appear in the categories list. I found some months ago, selecting watercolour or oils also gave me digital. And I think that's the key issue I had.
When you upload an item to the gallery, there is a checkbox under ‘Medium’ for Digital paintings. Problem is all those selection checkboxes are not displayed alongside the painting. They seem to be only used to filter items in a gallery search. I think I’ve mentioned this before. Those selections you make when uploading to the gallery should be displayed along with the painting.
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by Norrette Moore