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An interesting link, Pat. 'Artspeak' isn't a bad name for it, but much too dignified...I prefer 'art-babble'. Actually I couldn't read ALL that article, they are using English but it feels like a foreign language. Generally I like to hear/read artists on the subject of their work, but when things lapse into this phoney-baloney-artsy-fartsy waffle I rapidly lose interest. Exactly the subject of this theme, of course.
Lew.
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Good gracious, Michael, but I must admit, on times, I just close my ears.
At a local art exhibition, there was a lovely loose painting of a cityscape, as I admired it, two ladies started to chat about it, one ended by saying ' maybe there wasn't time to finish it off tidy'
Well, at least they didn't pretend to know about art.
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I know what I like when I see it!
I can't go along with this one, Micheal. I often like paintings for no reason that I can explain. My main interest is illustration, but all art is of interest. I tend to like the more offbeat stuff, rather than straightforward representations of what was in front of the artist. So some times I do just LIKE stuff, usually when I can't pin down the reasons why, it's concerning abstract art. Some I hate, (Rothko for instance) but a lot appeals, and when it does I just accept the fact that it appeals. Maybe you're right, and it's just that I don't know enough about it.
Regarding tuition...I've had very little of it, tending to bumble along in my own way. There's always information to be had. I've had two sessions of tuition. One, a two day course on life painting, which was a delight because the tutor let us do our own thing, merely offering suggestions to help. The second was an evening course on oil painting, this tutor spent half his time painting on people's canvasses...he was clearly trying to get us to paint like him. He brought some of his work in on the third session (I was not impressed). I stopped going after that. Even though I didn't like his work, it should have been possible to learn something from him...but I didn't want to turn into his clone. All this was years ago. I tend not to get involved in the more technical stuff on the forum. I didn't want to pass on my bad habits. But I do read it, because there's always something of interest and help.
I can't have that much time left now, I'm pushing 79, maybe I'll never get the technical stuff right. I just enjoy the challenge of trying to get what's in my head down on paper. Like everybody else I guess.
Lew.
Lew.
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I just saw and replied to that on the gallery Lew' just brilliant and right on topic. :laugh:
I've never been to an art class in my life (or ever sold a picture either). We did have a teacher at school who told us to "just paint".. I think maybe that stuck, although great chunks of my life I never painted anything for various reasons. I'm loving the freedom and companionship on this site. I did make the mistake of starting a painting thread on a football website a few years ago. The sheer ignorance, crass rudeness and sheer red-faced,loud voiced bullying attitude of one know-all (who didn't paint, just loved criticising and taking the xxxx, almost had me visiting his house. I just gave it up. What ( non painting) people can't seem to grasp is that we know when something doesn't work or is poor and don't need telling. Where would the challenge be if we never made mistakes?
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While I think that a tutor who takes over your work and tries to turn it into a clone of their own ought to be taken out and impaled with their own brushes, I did once take a picture to a friendly artist and ask what was wrong with it, because I knew something was but couldn't tell what. She asked if she could just take a bit of paint and show me - naturally I agreed. And with just one stroke (of raw umber, as I remember!) she transformed the thing - basically by unifying it and removing badly-structured and confusing detail.
I've kept that painting for something like 50 years because the memory is important - I bet the artist Anne Toms has forgotten all about it by now .... but I won't.
