Landscape artist of the year tonight.

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This has been a huge relief, I thought I was turning into a grumpy old man!!
I definitely am a grumpy old man who decided a couple of years ago not to continue watching , due to all the piffle , dross and gobbledegook that the so called  experts / judges spout out . Definitely thing the definition of expert is ex - had been and a spurt  is a drip under pressure ( I know it’s spelt wrong but I’m dyslexic) so it works for me. 
I like the programme, though have only seen the racecourse one so far on catch up (am away in sunnier climes at the moment! 😀). I like to see other artists techniques, medium used, etc. But as soon as one of the judges says the word ‘narrative’…. (Usually only a minute or so into the programme), I throw an imaginary brick at the tv screen. They don’t half come out with some nonsense. I never agree with their choice of winners, and I wish they’d show a bit more of the other painters that come for the day.
I shall keep watching because I like to see people actually painting, their technique and how they start in particular. I rarely agree with the judges choice but that’s life isn’t it!? Thankfully we will never all agree. They are always looking for that ‘something different’ which sometimes I like but often don’t. 
I like to see people painting too. At times you come across an excellent painter ( in your own opinion of course)and you’re full of admiration for how they tackle the subject.
I like that aspect of the programme also, but you often only see fleeting glimpses of each contestant actually applying paint, accompanied by pointless comments. As for painting for four hours… well we all know how impractical that is - I’m talking changing light source here of course! A programme designed by non painters quite obviously!

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by Alan Bickley

No doubt true Alan! I would certainly prefer to see more painting and less chat. Possibly YouTube is the answer to that!
Tessa - there is good stuff on YouTube, plus a lot of dross: Andrew Barrowman,  Andrew Tischler, Alan Owen (of course!), among the best - there are many more but my memory for names is getting a bit ragged.  Just avoid the American gentleman who seeks to recreate the spirit of Bob Ross - of whom the only thing one can kindly say is "he means well".  
Robert I cross the road if I see Bob Ross coming (metaphorically speaking!). I did look Andrew Barrowman up when you mentioned him recently-excellent: will look again. In Six Nations mode at the moment!
I'd never have encountered Andrew Barrowman if it weren't for YouTube.... many more good artists on there as well.  AND ... a few rotten ones: as if Bob Ross weren't bad enough, his inheritors still keep his tradition grinding on.   It's really tragic that so many people have been sidetracked by BR - ironically, that's not what Ross himself intended; he did TRY to explain why his work was never intended as anything more than hobby painting - but that was never going to work, thanks to the magic of television.   He wanted people to move on, past his technique with extra thick oil paint: but his good intentions got sidetracked by commercial temptations.  However!  You keep avoiding him, and his inheritors!  There's a lot on YouTube, offering the opportunity to see real artists painting - all we have to do is discriminate between the excellent and the frankly gimmicky, repetitive, and those who offer hyped-up speed paintings from which you can gain just about bugger all!  There's the good; there's the mediocre; there's the gawd-awful - ALL are there on YouTube: we just need to discriminate between them; for the new painter, taking to oils (especially) for the first time - I really don't think that's easy: but that's part of the learning process, and a choice we have to make.  I wish I could contrive to offer a new painter's guide - explain WHY poor old Bob Ross and even more so his copyists, is someone whose example ought to be avoided at all  costs; but I don't think I can.....it's a combination of so many things: poor drawing, bad composition, crude materials and especially pigments, pie-eyed perspective: but how is the new painter supposed to KNOW that?   Hard work, it really is - especially when a student has committed themselves to a given method and approach - in this case, they really need to drop that, dispose of their inferior materials (paint included) and start again: but it must be terribly hard to do that, after a significant investment in materials they were told were good.  Not surprising that so many of them resist that advice to the very last ditch.  
Well they certainly gave the artists a challenging subject didn't they! Does a roller coaster count as a landscape? I couldn't be quite sure! As well as John O'Neill, this issue included Lorna Hamilton who won the 2022 Parker Harris Award in last year's TALP Open. I thought they both did really well!

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