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Not that I do, in general, but how far can you go with nudity for it to be acceptable for most?. And, what is the difference between painting someone naked from, let’s say, the holocaust , or someone that you might drool over? Why is one considered too pornographic, and the other a depiction of a nightmare? Has freedom been lost within art too now?
Just asking.
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I‘m personally not offended by anything. Sexuality is a beautiful thing. I mean without it life would not exist. But to satisfy most I would say that nudity is fine as long as the art does not clearly focus on sexual attributes or poses. It‘s a grey area I suppose.Yes, indeed. However, we all run our lives trying to be politically correct, naturally so for some, although others fall foul of the law by not adhering to rules… from racist remarks to other prejudice. With this freedom we strive for, why differentiate in art? As long as the artist has taken the appropriate amount of time in his work, why are these freedoms being curtailed? On here too.
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Intention, place and context are the key questions. Nudity in itself is not the issue. Intention can be inferred from whether a particular piece strikes you as being representational or voyeuristic - in practice, I don't find it very hard to tell the difference between a study of the naked form and the pages of Playboy.
For anyone who does find it problematic, bring the age in question down a bit - it's not hard to distinguish between a painting of a naked baby on a hearth-rug - whether you find that an attractive sight or not is a matter of taste and opinion - and a representation of a child intended to titillate those whose minds lean in that direction. So a picture of a naked man or woman, boy or girl, in an artistic setting (using the word artistic literally rather than in any high-falutin' way) is very different from either the ooh-la-la provocations of private collections tucked away in a corner of the colonel's library, next to his copy of Famous Mistresses of the French Court, or the kind of image to be found in the glossy pages of "adult" magazines.
I don't care about those things in their place. But I don't believe their place is on the Gallery on this site which - as has been stated many times - is regularly visited by children - who are of course exposed to far worse via computers, but nonetheless shouldn't grow up assuming that it's normal or acceptable to gawp at women as sex objects.
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Well, to put in context, you were right on your observations a few days ago, yes, but who says so as a hierarchy? This must be questionable, and thoughts raised because of this, not because it’s bad ‘because’ someone thinks it’s bad and voices his or her opinions. I’m on your side, if there is a side… just what I was thinking! sexual content on purpose to annoy? Was it? What is bad and what is good and appropriate. Is this site liberal enough for the scantily clad, or was it because the art work had a voluptuous physique? One ponders of freedoms sir
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Interesting Conversation... I know some of this is due to my Persian Dancer Painting.. Nobody from the Admin Staff or otherwise ask me to delete it by the way, I chose to delete it on my own, in deference to some who had a problem with it... Didn't want to cause anymore controversy.... Perhaps Painters Online could consider in the future, having an Adult Content category or 18 and over category for anyone who has any painting featuring any kind of nudity of an erotic nature.. or suggestive erotism, even though the figure is fully clothed.. albeit scantily... You know, one where you would have to give your consent first, in order to view the work.. That would eliminate any future controversy.. It probably won't happen, but other sites do it...even Twitter....
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Well, in that case, maybe you should have a men only section for erotic nudity because I can't see any women on here being interested in looking. I'm all for freedom in art. I sometimes do some war art but that doesn't mean I depict the actual truth of the horrors suffered my women and children inflicted by men, in those paintings. When you think what's happening in the world right now, women and children being raped and murdered, this thread seems pretty trivial. Women should be shown in a positive light.
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by Denise Cat
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I agree with what Denise is saying and like Alan I can’t imagine an adults only section . This is a subject that comes up quite regularly cause a a bit of a problem then disappears until next time . I’m pleased that Eric told us he had removed his own work and that it was not removed by the editors, non of the moderators can remove paintings etc from the gallery and I know that Dawn will not remove anything that isn’t too offensive. Like a lot of things it down to the artists posting the painting to use their judgement and taking into account how others might react decide if they should go ahead and post , I don’t think anyone using the site has the attitude of I’m posting it no matter who it upsets well I certainly hope not. Nudity will always appear in art as it has done for hundreds of years the difference is now it can be more graphic and reaches a wider audience almost instantly therefore more care is needed to protect people sensitivities and vulnerability.