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Re. the Sam Odeque portrait. Why do paintings give us so much more than photographs? And when a photo does work it’s because it imitates the qualities of a painting. 
Brett Hill on 16/02/2026 01:20:38
Well, I don’t know if they are better than photos, but the thought, emotion and skill is always apparent if done well. To philosophise, it’s all copying, ie,  from the mind, life  or photo. The argument to say that one is easier is only perspective, depending how complicated your work is, of course. All are fine in my view and the great feeling I get when completing work from a photo is the same from me making it up by picturing it in my mind. Maybe it’s the work I put in?
Martin Shaw on 16/02/2026 08:38:34
I should have made it clear I meant portraits, though you may have meant that anyway. I don’t think photos can achieve the quality of colour that Sam Adoquei achieved in the above example. That may be because of the process: the dependency on light. It may be that the portrait’s a lie and we like it that way. I do think one is easier. The photographic image itself is created in an instant. Up until that point both photographer and painter are doing pretty much the same thing. Though the painter has to draw the image first. Or the photographer can take many frames, hundreds in the digital age, and choose one.  However that doesn’t mean the photo contains something special. But I think the photo still lacks the particular quality of many paintings.
Yep, pretty much in line with Martin here.  Good photography is an art in my opinion, when we see a photographer’s best work, he’ll most likely have taken many to arrive at that ‘best’. For portraiture, I prefer drawings and paintings.  The camera lens records everything, the artist’s eye SELECTS. When an artist uses  photo as reference, we still get something that’s the artist’s own interpretation.  That’s why I prefer paintings.  Just an opinion.
When an artist uses  photo as reference, we still get something that’s the artist’s own interpretation.  That’s why I prefer paintings.  Just an opinion.
Lewis Cooper on 16/02/2026 13:05:39
Yep.In a nut.
So do I. Bear in mind that a photographer can take many shots but an artist can keep going back and tweaking over and over again if they want to until they think their portrait is as good as it can be.  To me a photo can never have soul, a painting can.
 To me a photo can never have soul, a painting can.
Peter Smith on 16/02/2026 14:33:32
Do you have any idea what that might be?
Paintings having a soul is a step too far for me Peter.  But opinions vary.  I visited the National Portrait Gallery a couple of years ago, I was stood in front of this self-portrait by the British Artist Gwen John (around 1900)... ...I had the fanciful notion that she was examining me.  When she'd painted it she'd been gazing intently into a mirror to make this painting, maybe I was getting the sensation of that intense gaze?  Who knows?  What it meant to me was that the painting gave me the feeling I was looking at a living breathing person.  The best portraits can do that.  There are many  photographs of Gwen, none of them give that impression.  All this is trying to explain the unexplainable.  Maybe there's a little magic in some art?  
Isn’t that what we are all attempting to capture Lew? A little magic in a painting which we wouldn’t achieve with a photo. She certainly does seem to give the viewer the eye.
A bad choice of expression. What I meant was that some of the personality of the artist is reflected in a painting and I don't think that applies to a photo.
Amy Werntz
We've seen that  portrait before, but no hardship in seeing it again - it's fabulous painting. 
Did we see it on here? Fantastic anyway
Stanley Spencer 1914
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