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I find it interesting that you seem to want others to share information about themselves Lucian, but seem very reluctant to answer or share information about yourself including sharing your paintings in the gallery. So why the interest in others and always asking questions? I understand it’s a way of learn etc . Your answer above could fit most people and seems to be a fob off answer no one wants to have details of life. It would be nice to know how you became interest in painting and what you like to paint etc. If your fearful that someone might use information for some reason , only give basic details , I can honestly say that people on this site are interested in each others art journey and their not life journey.
I believe that if you can’t give then you shouldn’t take .
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I see your evasive answer Lucian. I can only conclude that you are nosey...another good northern expression. What is your reason for asking? I don't see the point unless you give and take. You just appear to take. All the time people are scammed on line by nefarious people collating information.
Your answer to me is trite and tripe.
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What I asked in this thread is whether the members are self-taught or whether they studied art in school. I mentioned in the original post that I am self-taught. I did not ask for anyone's life story, and I have no obligation to share mine. I also mentioned that no one is obligated to answer if they don't want to.
This is a forum, namely a place a virtual gathering where people hold discussions. The way forums work is that search engines (such as Google) index the content written on them and, the more content they have, the more chances there are they will rank on the first pages of search results. There are literally entire services dedicated to creating content on forums, so that they can become popular. People pay to have activity on their forums, and you're criticizing me for creating activity. This is disappointing, to say the least.
I am not taking anything, Sylvia. On the contrary: I was trying to give. You should be thanking me for creating activity. At least that's what would happen if I created content on most other online forums that are not very active. I explained to you why I refuse to use the gallery and asked you to respect these boundaries, but you keep insisting. I respectfully ask you one more time to stop doing so.
I see that my efforts are not appreciated here. Apparently, the staff team seem to be content with the lack of activity, case in which I have no right to interfere. I shall abstain from posting any further threads, but for the occasional one in the critique sub-forum, and I shall find other art online communities that don't seem to be so cliquish.
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by Lucian Hodoboc
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I despair that the thread has reached this level having started with a perfectly reasonable question, followed by equally reasonable answers until - suddenly, assumptions were made about the motives of the original poster: for which I can see very little justification - Lucian did not ask for anyone's life story, and if he declined to give his, that is hardly a failure of communication on his part.
Lucian may well be a somewhat prickly and awkward character - though who knows to what extent a different language intervenes - but some of us have, in my opinion, responded with hostility which wasn't warranted: he was reasonable enough if you engaged with him frankly; he may also have been persistent - clearly this annoyed some, as he could ask faintly awkward questions and press them a little uncomfortably. I still don't believe he deserved the response he received - in general at least - and have been disappointed to observe it.
If we don't want to look like a clique, still worse actually to be one, I think some of us need to make more allowance for difference.
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Robert I’m sorry that your upset by the comments that have been made . I however don’t apologise for the comments I made . Before I made my comments I gave a lot of thought about what I wanted to say , over the past few month whenever Lucian has posted it seem to have led to a awkwardness.
Yes he come from a different county and a different culture but that does not excuse ignoring people and being fairly aggressive in how he replied if and when he wanted to. Sadly he was not prepared to in my opinion mix with others on the site , that’s his choice and I respect his decision to not continue using the forum . He was not asked for his life story I asked why he felt the need to continually ask questions and not answer others without it being short and often aggressive sounding, and that is give allowance for the language and culture difference. I think it says a lot that he decided to stomp off and leave it looking like he has no responsibility for the breakdown in communication. Hopefully this will be the end of this discussion and it is sad the this situation arose in the first place but it would be wrong to say that everyone acted a badly and that Lucian is the innocent party.
I have never know a situation like this happen before and hopefully it won’t in the future .
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Wise words Robert, well said and we would all do well to heed them. Even so, I think in this case the gentleman sowed the seeds of his own discontent. It is clear from this post, and his posts in other threads that he believes the purpose of a forum is to create 'content' as nourishment for search engines. I rather believe that this forum is about the exchange of ideas, and I mean an exchange; what inspires people, how they view the work of others, a genuine, and may I say gentle, curiosity about other peoples approaches to art. If you join a group that clearly has that gentle curiosity but then insist that the 'rules' do not require you to engage in it, it is simply the wrong group for you. It has been kind of him to offer us advice on how the site and the forum should be run, and on what the 'rules' do and do not allow, and it may well be, that in some respects, he has more to offer us than we have to offer him. To focus on those areas, however, is to miss the point of this site and this forum. I think we should now offer you the prerogative of the 'last word' because we enjoy that as much as you do, and then get back to exchanging views on art and artists.
