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I also like my fine liners , I also have a long abandoned Rotring pen. Detail to excess ain’t my thing. In fact Robert if I can put my paws on it you can have it.
The rot ring technical pen you have to use upright but rotring make a large selection of drafting and art pens . I use the EF Art Pen which is a fountain pen I've just finished this sketch from our last walk along the river Weaver.