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It’s something there, that's driving me to carry on experimenting on Claybord.
I can't name it, but it might be all about its slick surface, or because I did love to use it for airbrushing?
One thing I see clearly - once I tried oils on it, it's hard to get back to more coarse canvas texture...
I'm taking different approach this time.
The first priming on my FIRST EXPERIMENT I did with Walnut oil ONLY.
Some artist [Robert ;) ] did advice, that Walnut oil on its own may will crack, what may cause issues after time will pass...
This time I'm priming with Alkyd oils + Walnut oil.
Oil paint will bond to the Walnut oil, making it appropriate mixture , without cracking risk.
I'm priming it in grey stain this time.
I have grey wooden palette, so I think that whatever I mix onto that palette, will match closer the painting board, regarding colour match.
Previously I've used Burnt sienna, and somehow it was making me a bit confused...
My palette in grey, stained surface in B.sienna...
Do you know I mean?
So this time my wooden palette will match the stained surface much better.
I'm planning to apply 3 layers of the paint to prime the Claybord.
Let's find out, if this priming will give me different feedback in comparison to the previous one (Walnut oil only).
This is the look after second layer has been applied.
Thank you for watching...
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by PogArt MasSter
Posted
Am I watching TOO MANY HORROR MOVIES or what?!
I got sort of a scary impression after a 3rd layer of priming paint was done...
When I stood at a front of the surface to take a photo, I saw myself like in the mirror from horror movie ;)
Spooky!
Lol ;)
I didn't expect that effect at all...
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by PogArt AsS'er
Posted
That is an amazing effect, PogArt. I haven't been following your progress, but I will be now.Thanks a lot Carol ;) Honesty, it was weird to see the reflection of myself while attempting to take a photo ;) That's proving of how the oil paint reflecting is. Thanks again for your keen interest to my experiments Carol.
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by PogArt AsS'er
Posted
I left this project behind while finishing up the previous experiment, which I have managed to finish yesterday.
So today I spent time on sketching the basic outlines.
My wife has wished to have a portrait of her and our niece.
As usually the reference isn't best quality, taken by mobile phone camera.
The details are alright when displayed on small screen, but when you zoom it upto A3 size...
Well.
That's the trouble.
The edges are compromised, and it's sort of flat looking photograph.
I can't do anything about it, I'll try to get it done, and it has to be painted nicely, or not dinner for 6 months ;)
I'm sketching free hand, and I'm not good at it, so I'm struggling a lot to get proportions right...
I think the outline sketch is fair enough to the reference, so I'll leave it for today...
Tomorrow I'll carry on improving on that base outlines.
● If you'd like to watch, I've made a video ...
Basic outline sketch.
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by PogArt MasSter
Posted
Looking good, so far PogArt.
You say about drawing 'free hand' and you're not good at it. Keep at it. It is this that makes us, as artists, individuals and recognizable.
On times the way we draw and paint is as good as a signature.
When we start out with art, we tend to copy the masters we admire, but there comes a time when the basics are mastered, we branch out and become individuals.
Your last experiment proves this. Carry on the good work, be yourself create your own art as YOU see it.
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Your last experiment proves this. Carry on the good work, be yourself create your own art as YOU see it.
Carol - thank you!
I don't want to make a loooong post in here, but there's some story behind my free hand efforts, if you don't mind me share please?
...I never knew any artist when I was a boy.
There was not Internet, no such digital devices, but general library with the books.
I trully believed, that all drawings, paintings I can see, are free hand drawn by artist...
Therefore I was drawing free hand too, just looking at postcard, and doing my best with free hand sketch.
Not, it never was brilliant, but good enough to be appreciated by friends...
I've began practicing graphite drawing back in 2015.
This if for first time I got aware of tracing methods.
Now - remember what I believed as a child...
So in 2015 I was very confused watching YT tutorials of HOW TO trace outlines by digital projector, or how to cover back of the reference with charcoal and copy it, or how to use light box, etc...
I felt disappointed!
I felt it's cheating!
Then I did join some drawing group, then other forum and so on.
Lots of people were doing this *cheating...
I did as well !
I was encouraged it's nothing wrong...
Slowly I did stop free hand practicing, I bought digital projector, and my outlines were always perfectly accurate, and done in no time too!
Easy!
I loved it...
But deep inside of me, I felt I'm cheating myself, as I knew I CAN DO FREE HAND, and I don't need projector...
On the other hand, it was so easy, and quick, and nobody was saying it's wrong.
Occasional commissioning didn't help to stop it, as I was after to get perfect outlines of the subject to please the recipient...
That's the story in short Carol ;)
Last year I started getting back to free hand routine.
It's like if you know you can sing a song, but you was using playback instead...
Since then I'm encouraging myself to practice the skill I was given ;)
Years passed by without much of practicing, so I'm always struggling, spending on outlines more time than needed, just busy with correcting...
But I don't have that bad feeling tracking., that I'm cheating, and when looking at my artwork I know I did it without any digital tracing.
Don't misunderstand my thoughts in here - I am fully aware, that tracing with any sort of digital help is not a cheating - some people can not free hand sketch, but they very good artists, some people just don't care much of how they trace the outlines, the easier - the better I'd say ;)
And that's alright!
Everyone is different, so the methods we can choose from, expecially now, with this many different technologies around!
It's just me, I call it *cheating, just because of my childhood, and what I believed back then, nothing else, no any offence in here ;)
And I'm not totally innocent too, lol ;)
I'm tempting to support myself with a grid method, not, no making it on painting surface, but having it applied over the reference photo, to see easier the vertical and horizontal relations between features, or my proportional divider - to correct my free hand imperfections ;)
I have it on my desk, and I'm using it when full of doubts regarding my sketch ;)
So I did stop worrying of being a bit off regarding outlines, it's free hand, even though I'm tempting to support myself with that plastic proportional divider, it's still not a digital tracing, and it's still require a lot of hand measurements, to get the things right, and practice to improve, so the time spent on it...
I treat free hand sketching as an important part of a painting, not waste of time, as I used to think some time ago, when noticed of how quickly outlines can be done...
Now every painting feels more bonded to me, not sort of mass production as before...
I think this is very true what you've said Carol about unique aspect of free hand routine.
It does require a lot of effort to get it right, but then it's becoming a personalised part of you, signature as you said...
Thank you for share your thoughts to me, it keeps me motivated...
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by PogArt MasSter
Posted
Your last experiment proves this. Carry on the good work, be yourself create your own art as YOU see it. Carol - thank you! I don't want to make a loooong post in here, but there's some story behind my free hand efforts, if you don't mind me share please? ...I never knew any artist when I was a boy. There was not Internet, no such digital devices, but general library with the books. I trully believed, that all drawings, paintings I can see, are free hand drawn by artist... Therefore I was drawing free hand too, just looking at postcard, and doing my best with free hand sketch. Not, it never was brilliant, but good enough to be appreciated by friends... I've began practicing graphite drawing back in 2015. This if for first time I got aware of tracing methods. Now - remember what I believed as a child... So in 2015 I was very confused watching YT tutorials of HOW TO trace outlines by digital projector, or how to cover back of the reference with charcoal and copy it, or how to use light box, etc... I felt disappointed! I felt it's cheating! Then I did join some drawing group, then other forum and so on. Lots of people were doing this *cheating... I did as well ! I was encouraged it's nothing wrong... Slowly I did stop free hand practicing, I bought digital projector, and my outlines were always perfectly accurate, and done in no time too! Easy! I loved it... But deep inside of me, I felt I'm cheating myself, as I knew I CAN DO FREE HAND, and I don't need projector... On the other hand, it was so easy, and quick, and nobody was saying it's wrong. Occasional commissioning didn't help to stop it, as I was after to get perfect outlines of the subject to please the recipient... That's the story in short Carol ;) Last year I started getting back to free hand routine. It's like if you know you can sing a song, but you was using playback instead... Since then I'm encouraging myself to practice the skill I was given ;) Years passed by without much of practicing, so I'm always struggling, spending on outlines more time than needed, just busy with correcting... But I don't have that bad feeling tracking., that I'm cheating, and when looking at my artwork I know I did it without any digital tracing. Don't misunderstand my thoughts in here - I am fully aware, that tracing with any sort of digital help is not a cheating - some people can not free hand sketch, but they very good artists, some people just don't care much of how they trace the outlines, the easier - the better I'd say ;) And that's alright! Everyone is different, so the methods we can choose from, expecially now, with this many different technologies around! It's just me, I call it *cheating, just because of my childhood, and what I believed back then, nothing else, no any offence in here ;) And I'm not totally innocent too, lol ;) I'm tempting to support myself with a grid method, not, no making it on painting surface, but having it applied over the reference photo, to see easier the vertical and horizontal relations between features, or my proportional divider - to correct my free hand imperfections ;) I have it on my desk, and I'm using it when full of doubts regarding my sketch ;) So I did stop worrying of being a bit off regarding outlines, it's free hand, even though I'm tempting to support myself with that plastic proportional divider, it's still not a digital tracing, and it's still require a lot of hand measurements, to get the things right, and practice to improve, so the time spent on it... I treat free hand sketching as an important part of a painting, not waste of time, as I used to think some time ago, when noticed of how quickly outlines can be done... Now every painting feels more bonded to me, not sort of mass production as before... I think this is very true what you've said Carol about unique aspect of free hand routine. It does require a lot of effort to get it right, but then it's becoming a personalised part of you, signature as you said... Thank you for share your thoughts to me, it keeps me motivated...
Posted
I paint purely for my own pleasure, now. Trying out different surfaces and medium.It's nice to hear again from you Carol. You're very kind person, seems with lot of experience behind. When I started graphite drawing back in 2015, I was after to support my finances by commissioning. I started posting my sketches on fb, I started gathering attention (usually from workmates), I been asked for drawing their family members... I did run a website for 2 years too, I bought expensive Canon printer for making prints up to A3 size... This much of effort ended up with no profits from website (it cost me £400 for 2 years) - so I did close it eventually, because idea was to work this money on the website, which never had happened. Soon after I sold printer, cause I wasn't using it, and set of ink did cost another fortune. I went down the Earth from the clouds I've been on. I realised it's much harder to live for art making, than I expected. So this is my big dream, that ended up painting for myself as you do Carol ;) I did put lot of effort and money to start getting profits, and it didn't work out. Now I'm stress free, and I do enjoy painting for my pleasure ;) This is great you do trying different media as well Carol ;) It's always gonna give some more ideas, and experience for sure, by trying new things... All the best Carol ;)