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Tanja G.

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I have something interesting to report: Today I went to the artist supply shop "Boesner" in Zurich. I described my mishap to the shop assistant, they are all quite experienced there. At first he said it couldn't be, that the Winston Newton fluid was suitable for "ALL papers". I vehemently replied that this was not true, considering what I had just described to him. He said he would like to test it. I said with pleasure, do it! We found the exact same Hahnemühle paper, as i've at home. He took a sheet and added the rubber liquid, just as I did with the birch logs. We didn't paint anything, no watercolour, nothing, just a bit of gum liquid. After 25min. the good man started to "rub". Hooray, after exactly 2 seconds he stopped, - he had already torn off the first layer of paper and he knew that from then on nothing could be saved. I told him to keep rubbing now! With joy I saw how he destroyed the whole sheet of paper! I did a dance of joy: You see? Do you believe me now? Yes? And is it suitable for any paper or not? What? I can't hear you very well! Now I finally had a believer on my side...I said I only want to buy Arches paper now, nothing else. Satin and fart-smooth. And a test, please. The test: WOW - without effort - without problems the liquid came off the paper, left no traces. Wonderful. It's called "Grain satiné" and has a violet-magenta cover. Happy End:) 🖌️
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Robert Jones, NAPA

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I will certainly take a closer look at Hahnemuhle paper (I shall also try to find out how to insert an Umlaut - very frustrating: and so is trying to find a European keyboard: all help gratefully received).   I saw an article a while ago - not in one of our esteemed publications - recommending masking tape as a means of painting a straight  horizon in acrylics and oils; I thought then, this may end in tears.  Tape around paintings to create a border and hold the paper in place while working, yes; on the painting itself - well, I have seen great results with both tape and fluid, but they seem to be well beyond me to accomplish. I think we're both better off without the stuff.    PS - Our posts clashed.  Good result for you, not so good for Hahnemule - and very interesting! You must indeed feel vindicated!

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Tanja G.

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I don't know if this is really actually or helps... Yes Robert, i think we're really better live without that stuff! And now i've the very best paper, i'm so happy:)
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Marjorie Firth

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Re accents on letters, on an ipad just keep your finger pressed down on the letter and slide it slightly up - you can then choose which accent you need on a letter - grüss etc
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Robert Jones, NAPA

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Aha - can't wait to try it now!
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Robert Jones, NAPA

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Bringing this thread back up again, a post had to be removed and that made the page revert to a two month old thread.  

Frank Bingley

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Yes Marjorie, I learnt the same on an iPad, so much easier than on a PC
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Lynda Green

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I detest masking fluid too, not least because I have a latex allergy. I only use it for the smallest of details and only if I can’t think of another way of achieving the effect I want.  However, I have just discovered Lifting Preparation from watching a Billy Showell tutorial.  She applies several coats to dry paper, just on the areas she wants to retain as highlights before she begins painting.  I haven’t had much of a chance to try it out yet, but it may be the answer.
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Robert Jones, NAPA

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Keep us posted, Lynda!  Also - have a watch of (names;  every blessed time I forget names!) ..... twenty seconds later - CHARLES EVANS, on YouTube.  He is wonderfully and robustly dismissive of those who claim you can't rescue watercolours, and shows how to lift out colour with a thirsty brush.  Alan Owen does the same and - thanks to them - so do I. It is a bit more difficult if you use dye-type, staining pigments - Pthalo Blue, Pth. Green, Prussian Blue - but very possible with non-dyeing pigments.  And - saves you having to buy lifting preparation, with any luck. 
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