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chen semb

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I want to know about Chinese oil painting.
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Robert Jones, Napa

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The Chinese tradition is water-colour painting rather than oil, though there was a Mongolian painter who used to show here, via his English-speaking wife. Unfortunately I've forgotten his name. Dashai Sun, I think, ransacking my few remaining memory cells.

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Robert Jones, Napa

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Ghastly - mass production in the most singularly unhealthy conditions you could begin to imagine: talent going to waste producing blatant knock-off reproductions for the homes of people who know no better. Seriously depressing.

Alan Bickley

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I think that most of us know this goes on in China but yes indeed, sadly repulsive and a thriving market bought about by people with no taste in art - there are plenty of them out there as well.

Michael Robinson

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Oh dear it's terrible! Talk about slave labour.....

Robert Kirk

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Semb gets off to a bad start and and is not well received. Mass production of oil painted western masterpieces - forgeries. Why are we discussing this topic at all? It would be far better to direct Semb to the Ashmolean Museum where there are some fine examples of Chinese Painting.
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Linda Wilson

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I met a Chinese artist locally a couple of years ago. He studied in China academically and learnt both the watercolour and oil methods. I was most interested to learn that he learnt about the rule of thirds, which I thought was a strictly Western technique. I was expecting a preference for a different ratio, like the Japanese 4:5 garden design ratio, but not so. He teaches the Chinese watercolour method across the country, to make a living, along with painting pet portraits. However his love is oil paint and doing his own thing. I think he promotes himself as "the Chinese Artist"am struggling to remember his name, but it is something like Xao Bi Lin, if anyone cares to search. He is very good in both media, by the way.
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Robert Jones, Napa

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The only reason we've discussed it is that the question was asked in a rather hard to follow way - I'm not sure where 'mums' come in, to start with; and of course Semb's first language is unlikely to be English, so some misunderstanding is likely. The Ashmolean certainly has many Chinese paintings - but if this was a genuine inquiry about Chinese artists working in oil, either historically or presently, it's a bit sad that the only link we can find is to Chinese sweat-shops churning out skillfully executed tat. Other than the few artists of broadly Chinese origin, eg including Mongolia and Tibet, who have either shown here, or whom we've become aware of, I just don't know of any major Chinese artist working in oil - it WOULD be of interest if we could find a few, but we've not made much progress so far. I don't know much about the contemporary art scene in China, but prior to the 1911 revolution just about all genuine Chinese painting was accomplished in inks and watercolour - the first oil painting of a Chinese head of state caused a certain amount of consternation, because it showed shadows (modelling) on the face of the Dowager Empress Cixi/T'zu Hsi - that had never been done before; there are two major portraits of her, one far better than the other, and I saw a reconstruction from old paintings and photographs in International Artist Magazine, by a Chinese painter - the contemporary portraits were by Europeans. But I think that painter now lives in the USA - so still not exactly progress towards finding out anything about genuine (ie not repro) oil painters in China.

Kenneth Twist

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Although oil painting began in the West, but the Chinese landscape painting is still great.