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Marjorie Firth

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“Aphrodite at the Waterhole” is all I’m saying.
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John Graham Inkson

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I loved your story Paul, but yet i hatted it as i have had brushes in exhibitions with so called modern art. Such wonderful work and skills in the show but the one that looks like i wont say the word, gets the first price or award. It used to bother me but i got over it. Today art is so diverse. I am not against modern art some can be really good. 

Norrette Moore

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I think this software is just taking it one more step from turning into a monochrone, and isolating each step in the tones, Paul. I must dabble in acrylics again Robert, useful for a first draft. I'm definitely not into bathing my watercolours!

Norrette Moore

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“Aphrodite at the Waterhole” is all I’m saying.
Marjorie Firth on 18/07/2026 18:18:17
  I can hear his voice saying that, Marjorie, but I cant remember the episode.
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Marjorie Firth

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It was a film, Norette. “ The Rebel” - Tony Hancock was an “artist” who sculpted “Aphrodite at the Waterhole”. Probably parts of it are on Youtube. Yes! Just looked, the trailer of The Rebel is there - oh what memories!😆

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Alan Bickley

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This thread has split into two topics, I’ve no problem with that - in fact anything that keeps the forum alive, because it struggles to do that most days… where is everyone I ask? The two topics being tonal values by Norrette, and washing off watercolour paint on paper by Robert and Paul. So, just to add to that, JMW Turner, the great man himself, was in the habit of brushing a large quantity of watercolour, say Chrome Yellow as an example, a favourite colour, onto a sheet of watercolour paper and then immediately running cold water over the whole thing…flattening it and letting it dry off before proceeding with his main painting. He wasn’t after a completely covered surface, you could achieve that with a brush, but swirls and streaks of varying colour strengths etc… I’m sure you can visualise it better than I can describe! This method gave him a vibrant and more importantly a transparent coloured surface with which to paint on!  I don’t think he did this every time of course, but he was constantly trying new ways of working… go on, give it a go! I’ve tried it and with varying results, mostly good! Obviously you need a decent weight of paper, I used 300lb but you could probably get away with less.

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John Graham Inkson

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For anyone interested this book is packed with Turners watercolour methods.
With Sarah, Phil, Ellen, Rose the dentist, and the granddaughter whose name I forget.

Robert Jones, Napa

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I think I'd need more than a book - or a bath - to paint like Turner.    But the book looks interesting.

Alan Bickley

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It’s an excellent book, I’ve had my copy for ten years or so… must have a look at it again as its been a few years since I opened it!
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