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I don't learn from it, in fact I am more likely irritated by the 'show' - that's all it is, but I will continue with it. The Beeb has to justify the expense of a team of 6 on screen plus a techinical crew, travel and maybe accomodation, therefore aim on entertainemt/controversy rather than authenticity. I always compare with how I would handle it if had been chosen - from who as The Wanderer asks, and if I could paint the conventional way but I can't now.
I wonder if comments on here are even read or if Lachlan, a contributor to our Magazine reports in from here?
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Ah! OK must have missed that thanks Sylvia.
I'm taking a stiff challenge myself next Saturday, comparable to the programmes folk with action painting, in that I will be attending an International Dance Day, organised by one of Urban Sketching Group in Southampton. It's mainly Spanish dancers but in all styles, much as the day I did last year. Needless to say I won't be dancing!
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I agree with everyone. It's a programme that should be taken with a pinch of salt, it's definitely not teaching me anything and my hubby watches with me and there's some bloomin' swearing from us both going on in that hour I can tell you. I'm sure the BBC must have had complaints about it as even non-artists I've spoken to think it's terrible! I expect like all the rest I will carry on watching to the end.
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My only real beef about it all - because artists of all levels just paint their way and surely that's what art is - is just not giving them a topic/subect and say paint your version of it, don't comment, advise or teach, and come back when time's up. What else is art for or about? They aren't clones but individuals and I'm pretty sure that if they were just let loose they'd turn out far better results. Oh, and try and get judges who basically see the same things and agree on what those things are. Lachlan will thow a paint pot from twenty yards for movement, Daphne will paint the legs on a centipede exactly the right shade. That's not exactly conductive to fair judging. Leve them to it...please.....😆
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Methinks the judges are, in fact, the main problem. Lachlan's "muppets" comment the other week was poorly considered, but Daphne's rubbishing of Oliver's work this week - which then won the public vote - shows she is out of touch with the grass roots. Even Lachlan is arguing with her; drawing strength from his Dennis The Menace sweater.
I think the concept is ok, and the genre-themed rounds do at least provide some kind of focus. Maybe the public vote should carry more weight, as it does in Strictly.
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Well there are four chaps in the final... who would you like to win? Who do you think will win?
I suppose a lot will depend on how they get on with the final challenge next week so it's hard to say.
Will the winner be the one who is deemed to have performed best across the challenges or the one who judges feel has improved the most since the beginning?
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Just got back from my hols and yes, the programme is as bad as ever. Diane's students have been eliminated more than Pascal's, even though she seems to be a better mentor. Pascal's comment about using blue in portraits reminds me of advice I had about green in skin tones in my early years. I put green in the mix and everything looked fine in my life painting until I got it home and looked at it in daylight. Blow me down it was green! Little did I know that the fluorescent green in the class room had a green cast, so you couldn't see how green your painting was. So I learnt not to listen to advice of this kind.
My bet is on Anil to win! followed closely by Oliver.
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I have a theory about that. When we measure and preconcieve and labour on something it often becomes stiff and lifeless, which is why the life drawing quick sketches are often really expressive, without time to think or measure you can use sweeping lines and emphasize the flow of the gesture. When you redo something I think it is probably useful to emphasize and exaggerate those flows... if it is a figure (my limited experience of figure drawing is greater than my extremely limited experience of daffodils) its worth doing a quick sketch first, then using this extremely exaggerated skeleton to build the details on... which stiffens them up and loses some of the exaggeration but by the time you finish you have combined the liveliness of the quicksketch with the polish of a laboured drawing to get somewhere in between.
More concisely, try and exaggerate!