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Well here's a thought, loosely on the topic, I was asked to do a stage prop, a painting for a scene. As in the time honoured tradition, I took an old photo, blew it up to 24" x 36" and printed it out in draft on an inkjet printer. Slapped it on a piece hardboard in a frame and dutifully painted it in acrylic, in my own colour palette...took about 3hrs. It looked good, did the job. Come the end of the run I said chuck it away it's a fake. "But you painted it!" came the reply from the director...well yes but it's still a fake. I had to pull it away from him and destroy it. Photograph or painting? Was I right...or was he?
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An interesting one Paul since looking at it strictly it could be argued that as it was a breach of copyright it should not have been publicly displayed in the first place in which case the answer would be neither.

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That's because you are still alive also this is not the public domain. Public domain is a legal term meaning without copyright.

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That's ok, I am very serious about artist copyright Michael, I have advised and protected many artists over the last 15yrs. Using someone's work without payment or permission is something I would never do. We need to stick together because it is rife and getting worse. I would write something on this but here is someone else's thread.
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Paul why not start a separate thread - I would be most interested to hear your thoughts on the matter and I'm sure many others would as well. Although it has been discussed many times before here in the forum it would be great to get a fresh and up to date commentary - I've been retired for a number of years and it wasn't my specialism - so why not post something when you have a few moments to spare.

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Good idea Michael...I was typing when you posted. I've started a new Topic Sylvia as suggested my Michael

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John Graham Inkson

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We have been though all this time and time again. The real problem is that people do not learn the principles of art. I have just been watching the painting challenge and not one of the students could observe, and observation is the core of an artist skill. Also their sense of colour was completely out of the head. Once again no sense of observation. They all copy from photos and that has killed any chance of understanding the creative sense of what art is about. Its observation skills that make an artist. For god sake an artist sees thing other miss, that observation, he/she dose not just copy a photographs. Such a same.
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I am not a new member. I am John Inkson, been around a couple of years.

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I tend to agree with all that John. I would also add drawing skills. This basic but most important core discipline is being ignored by many artist's who consider it unnecessary. Ignore it at your peril - evidence enough when you view these types of programmes. (although I haven't followed this latest one as yet). I may watch it on catch-up TV, but frankly the last one was both embarrassing and painful at times to watch.
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