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Thank you for all the support and advice again. I wanted to know if I could connect to anyone who understood the problem of anxiety and promoting art.
I need to know others have the same issues because while my art is a hobby, people can and do make money from their hobbies.
How do anxiety sufferers go about the task is what I wanted to know. I'll keep looking, keep trying because I do like the work and the people.
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Richard, I've only just encountered this thread. I don't really suffer from social anxiety - but I have a mental health condition which isn't immediately obvious because I've had it for most of my life if not all of it, and have become adept at disguising it, if rather less adept at overcoming it: my problem is a tendency to quite bad depressions, which can strike at any time and can go just as quickly: except, they don't always go for a week or two. This makes me a bit sensitive to rebuff - a dealer once told me my work was a bit 'chocolate box', and although I knew she was talking through her winter drawers, it was enough to put me right off for quite a while.
Different from your problem, it nonetheless presents some of the same challenges. Frustratingly, I'm much better at promoting other people than I am at promoting myself - a now quite well-known artist, whom I won't name (it wouldn't be fair), hadn't the confidence and perhaps the ability to write his first article for one of the magazines: so I basically did it for him, or helped him substantially with it; another artist, who has since come on in bounds, asked for help with their drawing - which I offered, and from which I think they benefited; yet another was a prolific watercolourist, with decades of painting experience, but not much confidence in or ability to express themselves through the written word. So again, up I pop, and basically wrote the piece. I know the editor of Leisure Painter and that of the Artist have also helped people with talent and ability shape their thoughts into article-form (precious few editors will take that sort of trouble).
But I've never had an article published in the magazines! Or not a proper one, just a snippet in a past LP and the occasional online piece. Again - it just took one refusal .... and I watched my confidence take wing and escape through the window.....
I've had several exhibitions - and did very well - but friends organized them: I wouldn't! I've participated in other exhibitions with fellow-artists - they did the publicity and the booking of the halls or galleries: I was perfectly happy to invigilate, as it were, because that didn't really involve any self-promotion. I've even quailed about joining ArtFinder - though past experience with online sales sites wasn't encouraging; and I need a lot of encouragement.
So, we have different problems but are both handicapped by the problems we have got in similar ways. I do have a Facebook page - Robert Jones - Isle of Wight Landscapes; a blog on blogger, named Robert's Reflections; I show here now and then; and I have a website-in-progress. Very slow progress, at that, because the web-builder and I are both busy in other directions: I must imagine I'm someone else, and give him a stir. Maybe that's it: pretend it's not our work, but that of our good friend X, and see if that helps us to promote it.
By all means get in touch if you feel it might be useful; my email address is: [email protected]
which reminds me, I also joined the National Association of Painters in Acrylic, thanks to them for having me. My self-promoting efforts are otherwise on the chilly side of tepid - I would love to be able to change, to develop massive self-confidence, to push myself aggressively, but a) I probably can't, and b) if I could - I'd spend so much more time in marketing than in painting, and that would defeat the object of the latter exercise entirely. It may sound wonderful to be a professional painter, but the risk is always that you'll start painting for income - i.e. the need to earn will come before the desire to create. This is one reason why so many painters teach - you make money from your students, you learn from them just as they learn from you, and you're free to paint whatever you really want to paint without having to rely solely on income from sales.
Your social anxiety would be a problem with teaching - whereas I could probably do it, if I were within distance of any likely students.
So - if you can, I strongly suggest you join a local art group: moral support can be invaluable; of course, you've got to get to know the other members, but then all of life is a series of personal negotiations in one way or other, and it could be the best thing you ever did. I'm not a member of any local groups currently, because the physical effort of keeping up with things got a bit much thanks to age and a physical issue or two: but you look like a much younger man than I am, and if you're up for the effort - I would jump in and make contacts.
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Just to clarify that it wasn’t myself that has ever asked or received any help in writing my articles for The Artist.
Actually, I’m at a loss, intrigued even, as to whom you refer to Robert, nobody comes to mind - but as it may have some left people guessing, I thought I’d make my position clear!
I know who you are referring to regarding the watercolour artist.
I consider myself very fortunate to have been asked by Sally, the editor of TA to write a series of features for the magazine - around seven so far and another five or six scheduled for later this year and into 2022.
Neither the editor, deputy editor or sub-editors help or have helped me write any of these articles in any way, shape or form, they just don’t do that! That same principle applies to any of the writers.
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And you will never know from me!
It hadn't actually struck me - I can be a little dim like that - that anyone would have supposed you (Alan) needed help to write your articles; not that there's anything shaming in it - some people are able to think in pictorial terms, some in words, some fortunate souls in both. All the artist I helped out needed was the confidence to get their words down on paper: once shown how, off they soared. As to the editors - actually, I don't know what, if anything, the editor of The Artist might do to help writers - the editor of LP was however very helpful to our watercolourist, whose identity you have guessed, in getting that article published. More helpful than other editors might have been, similarly placed.
With all you've had published though, I'd be demanding fair dibs if I'd had any part at all in helping you with it - and of course, I hadn't. Your success is all your own! And while we're at it - you should write a book: it'd be a lot more informative than some I've read over many years.
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A bit too late in the day for a book Robert! But I have been known to change my mind…
The reason I needed to clarify things is obvious of course, and I don’t even think that I’m a ‘well known artist’ apart from on this website - but I do know that my name immediately came into the picture by a long-standing member after reading your reply!
I have to work hard on these features, I suppose everyone does, and they take up an enormous amount of time, well for me anyway.
It was only by participating in Dawn’s e-newsletters on a regular basis that the opportunity arose for me to write my first feature for The Artist.
I’m grateful to both Dawn and Sally for having confidence in both my writing abilities and my painting.
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I wrote my e-book - still available, and what a bargain! Queue up now! - when I was over 65, I think. Was hard work, but I'd do another one, I think - time is the big problem; you've got to enjoy writing, to write a book, or the effort hardly repays the outcome. If you DO write one - make sure it fits into a format that a publisher is going to like; I didn't - I just wrote what I wanted to say, and I don't know of any firm into whose lists it would comfortably fit. And I'm too lazy to find one!
Keen agent required, apply within.
Anyway - assuming you're under 70 still, why not have a go. And even if you're not - quite a good number of people have written books into their seventies, eighties, and nineties. Never give up!
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Looking at Richard’s photo I would guess that Richard is in his 30’s….there you go, Richard, an insult or a compliment! I, on the other-hand, am into my 70’s ( how is it possible?) but it’s better than the alternative😆.And talking about publishing later in life…”Salmon Fishing in the Yemen” by Peter Torday ( brilliant) came out when he was about 59, a massive hit and his first published book. I’m thinking also about a woman artist ( unfortunately can’t remember her name) who gained fame and accolades in her late 80’s. All down to self belief.
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by Marjorie Firth
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Robert
I can empathise a bit with your depression. I've been there myself, especially when I was younger.
I, too, am a writer and would like to get published writing articles about art. Right now, it's just my blog. But I do recommend getting a website because it's the one stop for anyone who wants to know you and your work; I have had mine for years to put my writing out there. My blog is a mixture of thoughts on art, anxiety, and philosophy.
For years I have been looking at how to be a successful solo entrepreneur. I've read books on art, mental health, productivity, creativity and more. Writing in my blog what I've learned on the way.
It sounds to me, Robert like you would do well to become a mentor or coach yourself. You seem to have both the temperament and the desire to help others. It would also be some extra income. I feel the art world needs more mentors; there's a lot of advice in blogs, videos etc. But not enough care and help from one person to another.
I'm looking to find a Business or Art coach for myself as it happens to help me cut through some of the doubts and find direction.
I can foresee one day myself becoming a coach; I have the same sort of attitude. Teaching one-on-one, I feel I can handle even my anxiety. But I can't do that unless I've had some success.
You're quite right that having more than one income stream is essential, even necessary, to be an artist. I have a job, so my art and writing is a hobby. But I hope to create new revenue with my work.
I also recognise the need to join a local art group and connect to people, artists or otherwise. Part of that initiative is posting on this forum.
Since I'm a writer and self-help follower, here's a quote. 'Your level of success will seldom exceed your level of personal development because success is something you attract by the person you become.' ~Jim Rohn
Thanks for all the advice
