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Enrique Agullo

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Would like to know a bit about this picture and frame.  Weight approx 50kg. Frame measurements are (H) 36' x (W) 30' x (D) 9'.

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With Sarah, Phil, Ellen, Rose the dentist, and the granddaughter whose name I forget.

Robert Jones, Napa

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Reminiscent of the Dutch school; the frame is massively ornate - but also in good condition;  perhaps rather too good to suggest any great age.  Can you provide a photograph of the back of the painting - it's often as informative as the front, or even more so.  I take it there's no hint of a signature.  The flatness of the image - no visible brush-strokes - suggests it's under glass, or ... well, a print, or of such age that any impasto (heavy applications of paint) have sunk or at least become less obvious: in other words - I'd like to see it, back and front, in the flesh before saying any more than I've said already.  It's extremely difficult to offer any intelligent opinion on a screen shot: someone needs to look at the painting, a valuer, auctioneer, gallery, conservator ... these are not skills that are easy to exercise via a computer examination.  

Enrique Agullo

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Here's photos of back. There is no signature. 

Enrique Agullo

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All I know about the history of picture is it was already hanging on a wall of a flat/penthouse that was bought 40 years ago.
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Robert Jones, Napa

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Trying to hide its secrets, and succeeding - I was hoping for a dealer's label, scribbled marks to decipher, signs of ageing - and much more.  Instead of which, there's a sturdy backing board, held in place with tacks .... I wonder if the frame is original to the picture; but give me a while to think about this and delve a little further.  You're bound to be miles away from me, nearly everyone is: and I don't travel much these days so can't satisfy my curiosity by getting to you.   But something may strike me in a day or two: i.e. when I've had a good look at similar images.

Enrique Agullo

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The painting/print or bit of both is on board with that backing board, which you can see in photos is on back of that. Just might add I showed picture to artist friend who put is hand over picture and said it was painted as could feel raised paint but then on other parts of picture he said was flat. He also said he thinks the painting/image looks a bit familiar. Btw. Thanks for the info.

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Robert Jones, Napa

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The image is certainly very familiar - there are many flower paintings of this kind, they were deservedly popular, some of them were of great intricacy and many contained symbolism which those familiar with the language of flowers (and yes, there is such a thing: but don't expect your petunias to break into lively conversation) could understand.  There are all sorts of possibilities raised by your friend's suggestion, including the possibility that this is a print touched up with oil paint; to have lasted for 40 years or more - well, it's possible.  The very smooth areas could also be the result of glazing, the paint reduced with oil or even oil and varnish (if it's the latter, it'll give a restorer a hard time one of these days, but that's to embark down another rabbit-hole).   Some people hate frames like this, by the way: I love 'em.   All a matter of taste.   

Jenny Harris

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A quick internet search shows that it looks like it was probably painted as a copy of this painting by the Dutch artist Jos Van Os.

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A quick internet search shows that it looks like it was probably painted as a copy of this painting by the Dutch artist Jos Van Os.
Jenny Harris on 25/02/2025 13:25:09
A quick internet search shows that it looks like it was probably painted as a copy of this painting by the Dutch artist Jos Van Os.
Jenny Harris on 25/02/2025 13:25:09
Thank you 
A quick internet search shows that it looks like it was probably painted as a copy of this painting by the Dutch artist Jos Van Os.
Jenny Harris on 25/02/2025 13:25:09
Thank you. 

Enrique Agullo

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Would like someone's opinion please. I do like the frame and picture and are thinking of buying it. £350 is the asking price. Think it's worth it, any one else.

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It’s more likely to be a print, not even a limited edition and is therefore worth a few pounds at most. Limited edition prints don’t fetch a great deal either, but can depend on the artist of course! If it’s in an ornate, what is known as a Swept frame, (no mitres at the corners), similar style to the one illustrated, then the value lies in the frame, and they can be expensive, depending on age and material.

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