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thank you Michael,you have said it all. and in a polite way. Better than I would have answered mr . k2. cheers, Syd :-) :-) :-) :-) 8o| ;-)
Good for you robK2...Artists like Syd trying to make the forum a friendly place for a chat and a laugh,what a cheek !!
Amanda I know I can be as silly as the next man - my wife frequently reminds me of that fact. But it's not silly to be irritated when a thread gets sidetracked by remarks that are intended to amuse. If I want a laugh I would tune in to 'Mock the Week' it's a more entertaining show than this one. What I innocently hoped for when I came back to the Forum was to be able to share other artists thoughts about current trends in Art. Digital art is a new development and the iPad a new tool at the artist to explore. There were initial affirmative responses to digital art but nobody seemed keen to take it up. I hoped somebody might have expressed an opinion about David Hockney's show at the RA. 'A Bigger Picture' or given links to other good examples of digital art.. The only facts I learned from the thread was that Amanda and I occasionally sketched with with a Rotring Art Pen but used different graphic tablets. Hardly a startling discovery but keep using the tablet Amanda!
I find Mock the Week silly and juvenile . the most laughs come from the participants which seems to be the new approach to comedy on TV .adding a few swear words keeps the interest? God forbid that the new humour creeps into the forum but a little loosening up does no harm.We all moan at times but we get over it and get back into the friendly spirit of the forum with its mix of serious discussions and really good humour. Amen to that! Syd. (!) :-)
Oh it's not an eye Pad then... I'm thinking of getting a new activity toy, an IPAD. And a CLOUD in-between... It should be compatible with my raincoat...the IMAC. The day that hell freezes over will be the same day as the final trace of humour departs this forum... PS Syd's magic ceiling is not far away...in the 1950's the mobile phone & hand held TV were but distant impossible dreams...
I do actually have some sympathy with robk2 here, it can be frustrating to want a serious discussion and then find the general tone is "keep it trivial", I think people should judge the tone of the initial post, if a serious point is being made lets keep it serious, if it seems light hearted, then by all means lets have a bit of fun. But like TV where every panel show seems to consist of a regular circle of interchangeable "comedians" all taking their turn to be compere, constant comedy can be a bit tiring.
Hi robok2, I'm sorry your wife thinks your silly,my wife would have a long list of things she thinks is wrong with me..I think we all know who the naughty kids were at school, the jokers who sat at the back..I was the telltale at school,I remember the other kids used to sing a little song to me in the playground " Telltale tit you smelly little sh~t".After the song they all tried to kick me up the ar~e..(I think this started off my lifelong battle with hemorrhoids),so I know how hard it is to make people behave...I think it's up to us normal artists to do what we can to stop these comedy vigilantes from being silly on our forum !!!
I have rather mixed feelings about digital painting. I dislike the propriety (iPad!) and the incompatibility between brands (there are similar machines based on the Android and Windows operating systems, I believe). Compare it to the physical paint market; you can use brand A's turpentine for brand B's oil paint and apply it using brand X's brushes onto brand Y's canvas. Then, when you're done and have waited a suitable amount of time, you can varnish it with brand Z's super-dooper varnish. Of course, oils are slow and digital is quick. I should have chosen acrylic, instead, but digital makes even fast-drying acrylic seem slow. ... and then the battery dies. Okay, I'm rubbish at charging things with batteries. Even so, I do think that the hardware and software for digital art remains underdeveloped, and I think I have better things to spend my money on. On the plus side, digital equipment is pretty good for sketching and and the resultant images do not need physical storage space. The initial outlay is relatively high but the running costs are low. It is rather fun to play with but does not (unless you are David Hockney) seem to offer a saleable result as fine art. I gather that digital art is rather effective and quite popular in illustration circles, however. I do not mean to denigrate illustrators at all. I have a background in IT; I have worked in software development. I am possibly a little cynical. But digital art is still art, and an interesting technology.
As an afterthought... Who among us (who can be bothered to reply) has a Kindle or a.n.other brand of e-reader? And who has a smart phone? ---- I have neither. I prefer my books not to run out of power and I had a smart phone but I didn't remember to charge it often enough, so I kept finding that I didn't have a functional phone at all. Which was annoying and bad because schools like to be able to contact parents. So I have a dumb phone, which makes depth charge noises indicating that it is hungry for electrical power roughly once a fortnight. :-)
If I had an Ipad, I'd use it - as I use anything else; old envelopes, packaging, backs of bills (and fronts of bills..), shopping lists and so on.  The question is whether I'd get one in the first place: I have a very basic mobile phone, I don't have, or want, a Kindle; and I still use a fountain pen.  I don't have any doubt at all though that the Ipad - and doubtless any number of other devices yet to be invented - can be perfectly legitimate tools for artists.<div> </div><div>Maybe some of us think we wouldn't use these new-fangled things, but that could just be because we've not had the chance yet: put an Ipad in my hands and I'm sure I'd be using it alongside the sketch-book.  I've seen some fantastic work - by Hockney, of course, but also on the Gallery here - made on an Ipad; and I don't see really why anyone would look down on the device: no one, after all, is going to wrench the paint and brushes out of our hands and insist we use one if we don't want to. </div><div> </div><div>Most of us are interested in the physical process of producing things, and find it a pleasure, or a challenge, or both.  But it is the result, ultimately, which matters.  If I could find a device - would an Ipad do it? - which could allow me to produce a result similar to litho-prints, or wood-blocks, without all the equipment for which I have no room and probably can't afford, I'd leap at it.  And why not?  </div>
but humour is important too don't Cher know. I think you have said enough impolite things about two venerable gentlemen so I hope you can loosen up and get over it or you will waste valuable space on the forum instead of making your ,no doubt , important point. Cheerio Syd :-)
Sorry Robk2 your light humour is a bit too subtle for me . Layers....hens...? can't make birds fly? I went out to the back garden to feed two hungry blackbirds and they immediately stupidly flew away.Anybody else can explain it to me? hate missing a joke through my ignorance., honestly. baffled.....Syd (!) (?)
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