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Each to his own, I have no issue with that. However - drawing allows you to explore, investigate, and understand the forms of objects: and if you don't draw with a pencil, you'll draw with your brush - you've not really much option.
I wouldn't think of speaking for all here, but it seems to me that some are either afraid of drawing, or lack all confidence that they can do it: if I were looking for a PhD dissertation (and surely life's too short?) I'd tie this to the decline in the use of handwriting - as people become less attuned to forming letters, so they'll become less confident that they can do anything at all with those pointy objects with graphite or ink in them... But if you can write a shopping list with the trusty biro, you can draw. All it takes is practice - is it inspiring? Well - not for Anth! But, and if I repeat myself you'll find this is one of the penalties of ageing, each to his own.
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As you say Robert, each to their own. If we didn't like different things and work different ways the world would be a pretty dull place wouldn't it? :)
Syd, the actions you describe that you carry out with a pencil (composition, rough shapes etc) I carry out on a computer, I suppose because that's my day job and I'm used to it. Whatever floats your boat and achieves the desired result!
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Well of course some people lack confidence in certain skills and then develop a dislike for them as a way of avoiding doing them. Then, of course there are people who can and have drawn in the past, like myself, who never enjoyed the experience and didn't want to repeat it too often. Nothing wrong in that. As I've said, why spend precious time doing something you don't enjoy - after all aren't we supposed to derive enjoyment from our hobbies? And that brings us back very neatly to an earlier thread of mine regarding having fun with art. Another thing, of course, is that some artists just like to draw and not paint because, presumably they don't enjoy the painting aspect as much!
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All perfectly fair - I did want to put the other side, but there's more than one way to skin a cat (which always strikes me as a pretty unpleasant thing to want to do, but there we are....).
Anth does his preliminary work on a computer, I see - so do I, sometimes; never at the same level as his, I suspect, but I do enjoy it. Happily, I've always enjoyed drawing too, without necessarily being too brilliant at it: over 60 years ago, starting at primary school (never mind how many years over 60, all right?) I hated 'sums' (and still do and always have) and drew gollywogs (apologies for currently offensive term, but what else do you call them?) over my arithmetic paper. Miss Millam was very kind about it, when she'd stopped hitting me with the school attendance register, and predicted I would go far. All the way to Pentonville, as I remember*..... ah, the dear, dead days!
*That's very unfair to Miss Millam, who was lovely.
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The art of drawing and painting, and they are both art, not just skills as suggested earlier will inevitably see a decline. Colleges can take some blame for this demise, not all, both my old colleges keep up the tradition of drawing with their regular life classes which are an important part of their curriculum but for how long?.
Then we have computer drawing packages, digital imaging, photo manipulation and so on which has all been covered in earlier discussions and I will leave it at that.
Fortunately though, we still have many great living artist's who uphold the traditions of the painter, most of them can draw, and draw well. Drawing is the fundamental backbone and foundation of traditional figurative art and it is a necessary discipline as well as a useful one. I do accept that there are many who don't want to go along those lines and skip the drawing bit and that's fine, if you can get by without it then good luck to you, I actually enjoy drawing and always have done and have many dozens of sketch books full of useful information to fall back on should the need arise.
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Sorry Sylvia, you are right - you did say "rules are made to be broken". It wasn't that I was advocating the same thing but that there are no rules or should be no rules!
Anyway, at the end of the day we are all on the same side as we love different forms of art - viva le art!
As for the reference to the "looney bin for disgruntled artists", I'll be the one sitting in the armchair to the left of you - basket-weaving!👵
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Your last point would find an echo with many people I know, Geoff, as I have quite a bit to do with schoolteachers one way or another: my nephew is one, my cousin and other relatives have been in the profession, and close friends and some political colleagues are teachers. I don't think that painting, traditional or otherwise, is under threat from new technology; I think drawing is good if you can do it, and even better if you don't get depressed about it because you're never quite good enough - and anyway, most of us have been there! But a good friend of mine is a photographer, and no less of an artist than I like to think I am.... we have much in common, we both compose our pictures, we both slyly kick the rule book away now and then. And then, we have artists on the Gallery who always work in digital media these days, for a whole range of reasons - some because they can't handle art materials so easily these days, but many because this is the medium they've chosen. They're no threat to my way of working - far from it.
Mind you, even if I did have a similar mind-set to a teenager, I wouldn't mind - it's having a mind-set like my Victorian great-grandfather that would cause me to pause.....
Put it this way: yes, you can make art even if you draw like a cow with a musket; but those of us who can, well or just about, find it a useful extra dimension, and for many of us it's the wellspring - the source of everything we do. All we need to remember is - we're not all the same.
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Pat - taking a photo image and spreading it over four sheets of A4 would bring me to my approximate chosen size , 20" x 16" . Could you , or anyone , explain in words of one syllable how I get the printer to do that . Presumably my image would need to be divided into four pieces , but I don't quite know how to command the machine to print the four quarters - do I need special software ? . Any suggestions appreciated .
Steve