Sky 'thing' mini demo

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"Simply copying and pasting" requires knowledge of technology which is something I definitely don't have Michael.
Adele, if this can be of any help: looking at my posted painting, I see only in the window on the very top of the screen "painters-online.co.uk" (nothing else). But, if I click on it, it becomes blue and there I see the whole "http://www.....+ image...." of my posting. Then I take a piece of paper and write it down. So I can type it as a link in whatever forum thread about that particular posting. This is very old fashion, I know but it works. To go to the gallery or site again, you click on the blue words again and the "painters-online...." reappears again. All the best :) Mia

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Robert and Michael, I've had a try of both your suggestions for the sky and I ended up doing my own thing! I painted a seascape which isn't very marvellous but I've put it in the gallery and here. You must remember I'm still learning!! Any suggestions would be welcome.
Hi David, with the furthest waves I left the paper white and painted around them. The breaker wave I used white gouache and applied it with a sponge, and then flicked some white gouache from the brush over all the sea although it doesn't really show up on the photo.
I commented on your posting in the Gallery, Margaret. I think it is a splendid piece of work :) Mia http://www.painters-online.co.uk/artist/MiaKetels
I don't think you need much help, Margaret! Very well composed and painted seascape. http://www.isleofwightlandscapes.net http://www.wightpaint.blogspot.co.uk
it is great to see this sort of thing in the forum .please give us more of your tips and ideas ,and advice
Well, now; interesting. The sea does fall back, gather strength, and come back at us - and its colour varies enormously depending chiefly on the amount of light in the sky. So I should hesitate (particularly as I've had my own problems in painting it) to be too dogmatic about the way it should look - the fact is that things rarely do look as they 'should'. There is of course a convention, which is often but not always reflected in reality, that the leading edge of the wave, beneath the foam, shows as a translucent green; but I've seen it in other moods, too. There was a book, at least one, and a whole series of videos, by the late E. John Robinson on painting water, and the sea in particular (which Americans nearly always call 'the ocean' - because they've got one on both coasts): I don't know if these are now available as DVDs but it would be worth a look: the fact that it was a series suggests that the subject is indeed complex. I found the painting above quite convincing, though - bearing in mind that all we can do is present something of a code, marks and colours that represent but can never capture reality: it may be somewhat idealized, perhaps - it's a wild sea, but at the same time quite a pleasing one; the sea is rarely that attractive, gentle blue, and given the sky is grey I wouldn't expect it to be quite that appealing; but I think it a very creditable effort. When I can do better myself, I'll be sure to say so! But as I said - and I don't know why this is so, I've had trouble painting the sea, and it's time I had another crack at it. http://www.isleofwightlandscapes.net http://www.wightpaint.blogspot.co.uk
As you know I struggle with the sea, but I have a couple of observations which may help. Where there is a sandy bottom, there can be a turquoise effect, particularly if light is travelling through a wave or the sea can look green on a duller kind of day. Where there is deep water in full sun, the sea is truly blue. But in this country we tend not to get this very often, as it is dependant on the sun and we tend to have shallow water around our shores. I live in sight of the see as I'm sure you do and rarely is there a colour, that I would wish to replicate. However, if you really want inspirations sunset in Guernsey offers beautiful pastel shades. Alternatively try watching some Utube videos, Alan Kinsgwell?
Thank you Syd and Sylvia, I see what you mean. I will try harder next time! Did you paint that lovely seascape Syd? Am I talking to a genius? Thank you also to Robert and Splosh. All your advice will be taken on board and I will certainly have a look at your suggestions. It's wonderful to be able to ask for help and get some really good answers, I am finding my way around this site and am learning new things all the time.

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Yes I too have subscribed to both The Artist and Leisure Painter, I'm looking forward to the next issues.
Thank you for the demo Michael. I will have a go at this the next time I paint a sky. I tend to use a wet-in-wet technique for skies. I wet the whole area, then drop in patches of ultramarine. Sometimes I'll use kitchen towel for my cloud edges. Then I'll add some bt sienna to my blue and add this to my clouds, and sometimes a bit of permanent rose or yellow depending on what kind of sky I want. As it dries I'll add in more blue or more grey in certain areas to add a bit more interest, move paint around, and basically tinker with it more than I should! In this painting (cropped) I wanted a reddish tinge to the base of the sky so I wet the horizon, turned the painting upside down and put in a line of purple, so the colour blended upwards only. Comments welcome. Kay Marriott
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