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Derek Snowdon

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I have attracted some flak. Rarely do I place derogatory words as I hope you have noticed about another's work, but this time someone else had started it and I merely added my brief honest opinion. I am no expert in anything, just a long time "late starter" hobby painter over 40odd years. Obviously to attract the flak I opened my big mouth and shouldn't have, such is my life. Bit of a mystery to this old git who made the initial comment, deletions and denials are there, but it's said now.
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Flak is I am afraid part of the passage of joining in on any site such as this. I have received my own share in the past through comment's which I have made and which have been woefully misinterpreted. Don't know where your 'flak' has arisen as I haven't come acrioss it but don't worry Derek - you're a valued member of the old gits club.

Derek Snowdon

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Cheers Michael, yes I appreciate joining in and taking part, some people don't take part just take. The flak came via personal emails.

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Well said Syd and I totally agree. I suppose I shouldn't have added a comment on top of the original one, but it stuck out like a sore painter.
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Robert Jones, Napa

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I expect I could guess who had a go at you, without too much trouble. Although as I don't wish to do him an injustice I shan't name him until I've taken a look. I agree with Syd's method - if I think a picture is hopeless; bad in execution and conception; or even too good for me to say anything more deep and revealing than "Coo!", I say nothing. If I think I can help someone improve, then I might offer what I hope will be a gentle steer in the right direction. Even then, I managed to offend someone once, but that's a risk you're always going to take if you offer anything beyond glutinous praise - if you can't take criticism, you shouldn't show your work as you obviously have no faith in it. There has been a bit of revenge commentary on the site in recent months, which is a waste of time, apart from being offensive, because when it obviously is revenge and the person commenting has resort to insult, I doubt that anyone respects their judgement: or their work.
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Well I looked up the most obvious name and, guess what, I was correct ...! What does puzzle me is how the main comment which started the furore was deleted. I can't find a way of deleting comments and must assume it was considered innapropriate by the administrators who then performed the act. Am I correct? - or is there a way of deleting by members?
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Robert Jones, Napa

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Jenny is right, you can indeed do that, and I wish the person who made the comment, together with a fantastically ill-informed comment on van Gogh, would remove his. But he won't, because he enjoys winding people up. Everyone should have a hobby - it's just a pity that this is his. It will pass, as most things do.

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Still mystified as to how the original comment made by a lady under the image in the gallery, which I endorsed was deleted.
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Yes you can delete your own comments (but only your own comments). I forgot about this option and am left to assume that the comment in question was deleted by the person who posted it.

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Yes thanks Michael I guessed that too
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Robert Jones, Napa

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I agree, but sometimes people do take well-meant comments amiss. To be quite frank, I don't care if they do - I was a political party agent for many years, and I've long since acquired a hide like teak - but others really do care, and hate criticizing and perhaps hurting others. I should add that I hate hurting people too, but think that if you show your work you must (surely?) be prepared to take it on the chin now and then without feeling you have to retaliate. The whole problem here is that one of us can't take it, but likes to dish it out in revenge - although I think he takes pleasure in the revenge, at least as much as he does in his work. I don't see why we need to indulge him - but he can take revenge on me whenever he likes, if it makes him happy, especially if it saves other people who do care from his barbs. I can hit back, though, if provoked.... just so's he knows.
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Part of the problem here is the way criticism is offered; there's a world of difference between helpful polite criticism and criticism offered with, dare I say, venom.
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