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I love acrylics but I will admit that the vibrancy of the colours gave me a bit of a shock at first...I use them as I would oils but find blending difficult...this I put down to lack of experience...I havn't used them for a while because my course is watercolour...one thing I will admit is that the three works I have done in acrylic everyone loves and remark on the colours...so my feeling is with acrylic is plan your painting and make a stay wet palette and paint the area really quickly...again experience...our class breaks up in a couple of weeks so I think the acrylics will be out again...Mel does beautiful works in acrylic definitely made them his own.
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To Patsy...well thank you ma'am.
There are probably many members of NAPA [National Acrylic Painters Association,based in the UK] who frequent This Forum...other than organising prestige art exhibitions of its members work...
The big questions are:
Does it actually do anything to promote the acceptance of acrylics in the world of art?
Does it do anything to promote them in art & design education?
Does it do anything to promote them in say forums like this?
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Yes it does Meltemi. NAPA UK started a NAPA in USA and now they have their own exhibitions with sharing members between countries.There are also members from around the world who have exhibited in UK too.Please visit : www.napauk.org
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I prefer to use alkyds as a fast drying under-painting under oils, they just seem more suitable being compatible wet or dry with oils. I have read some articles on conservation indicating that the purely mechanical bond between oil and acrylic layers is less durable than a mechanical/chemical bond of oil to oil or oil/alkyd layer. Painting on an inflexible support is recommended if overpainting acrylics with oil paint as the differences in flexibility as they age is less likely to cause cracking or flaking.
I just use acrylics as acrylics and don't even think about watercolour or oil technique, in the same painting i will use the paint opaque and transparent, thick and thin ....as and when the painting dictates. it is this lack of rules that keeps me using it as my main medium.
it is a shame about the snobbery in the art world, but it's not just the materials used, traditional drafting and rendering skills also seem to be held in lesser regard by the 'high art' brigade than say an unmade bed or a pickled shark.... i'm not against the avant garde per se, i just think we need a level playing field and 'skill' in any media should be given equal acknowledgement.
i am pretty certain that had acrylics been around during the renaissance, oil paints would have had to share the limelight with them and the current snobbery is purely because they are the new kids on the block, just as the impressionists were frowned on by their peers with their free-thinking modern ways but are now referred to as masters. Acrylics are here to stay for a long time so i'm confident their prestige will grow with time until they are also considered traditional materials..
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Surey the snobbery you speak of doesn't still exist? If it does, there is, as you say, no basis for it at all. Agree with you about underpainting in oils - except I don't actually use alkyds; agree in the sense that I wouldn't use acrylic on a canvas & then paint oil on top. It seems to me to be asking for trouble in the longer term, given we don't yet know what the effect will be of ageing oil paint laid over heavily worked acrylic. It also seems to me an insult to the acrylic! When it can do so much on its own, why lay oil on top, as if putting on a good overcoat is going to make your shabby suit more respectable...
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I am glad of your posting Steve !
This morning I had the intention just like you to post about Acrylics.
A few days ago I have completed a fairly big landscape using entirely the new Winsor Newton Artist acrylics.
It was a joy ! I could paint and manipulate my shapes, colours, atmosphere just like with Oil.
It did not dry on me too quickly, I even forgot about their new properties and by accident I dragged away some paint from the canvas with my sleeve.
Imagine being able to work on a big sky and the acrylic do not dry as it was before. No need for lots of water to keep it going.
But the beauty lay also in the fact that the colours do not shift when it dries.
They stay vibrant, in the same shades when applied on the canvas.
Once upon a time it was hard work to complete a canvas in Acrylic but now that I am back on form I am jumping once more on my canvas. The next thing will be to try them like watercolour. ;-)
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I wonder...Is it snobbery, or simply that paintings executed in oil are considered more durable when set against, for instance, light- vulnerable watercolours...Turner's wonderful works, for instance, have to be protected from the light of day ( I realise his materials were often badly / ignorantly chosen) and I think his original works are rarely seen except on carefully organised occasions. I agree that there is a connection in peoples' minds between oil paintings and the works of the Great Masters. Having said this, I do believe that work in oils is and always will be, prized more highly, but is it snobbery or good business practice on the part of investors? I suspect the latter. In Teneriffe, that hotbed of tourism and buyers of holiday mementos, so called 'artists' use prints to which they then add sundry brushstrokes in oil to deceive the holiday makers who then believe they are buying a genuine oil painting. *-) *-) *-)
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At the end of the day a painting in any medium can be sold for a high price. It has all to do with how good is the style and who is the artist.
Ruth the durability of our recent Acrylic is probably better than Oil or Watercolour.
Oil becomes yellow, very often crack because the artist did not apply fat over lean but other way around etc...
Watercolour : I have seen watercolours hanging into homes, they were old and their owners had never heard about protecting them from sun or dampness.
I have seen one, the scenery was blue all over, this is because the sun had bleached all other colours.
I have Acrylic paintings which are now 28 years old and as fresh as day one.
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I know I'm in the wrong category here as a convert from acrylics to oils, but was interested in the underpainting topic raised initially.
Dispite my username (a nod t o Alwyn there maybe! ) I am still struggling with the necessary underpainting for using oils, some of which are a bit thin , even the artist's quality ones.
I filled a pochade box with alklyd paints & tried underpainting with them as well.
I found the glossy finish a bit slippery as a key for the oils so returned to my old system 3 acrylics layed on thinly.These dry matt & work well.
I tried underpainting with oils & found thinners the best way to get a matt 'key' but it needed a few coats to get there.
I am no more informed than anyone else about the longevity of oil over acrylic but it started me thinking.
It isn't uncommon practice among proper artists to do this.
Most canvasses & boards on sale are prepared in acrylic primer / gesso for either use.
( If they were oil primed they wouldn't work too well with acrylics I assume).
I dont suppose we can see how durable our work is any more than the past masters could !
By the way, I might have converted to oils,but I follow keenly the progress of these new fangled open acrylics & peoples opinions of them.