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Hello,
I am currently doing research for my Extended Project Qualification (EPQ) as part of my A level studies. For my project I am researching art history from 1860-1920 (roughly) and am looking into the art movements within this period of time. The five movements I have chosen are Impressionism, Post-Impressionism, Symbolism, Fauvism and Expressionism. From each movement I am going to recreate one of the famous pieces. In order to decide which piece to choose from each period I need opinions on what painting is the most famous from each movement. I would be extremely grateful if you could take the time to give me your opinion on which piece you personally think is the most famous from each of my chosen movements.
Thank you!
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Have you been given a brief which says you must choose the most famous painting in each category? If so, how do you measure famous? If you claim that a picture is the most famous in its category, you need to be able to prove it. If you can't then the examiners may mark you down.
It might be better choosing the pictures that you like the most, then you can easily explain why you like them. You can also pick out certain techniques, styles, subjects in your chosen pictures and show how they relate to other paintings in each category.
How are the marks awarded? If most of the marks go to the quality of your painting, you'd be better choosing pictures which are easy to copy.
Ones I like are:
Monet - Woman and children in a poppy field
Van Gogh's self portraits
Burne Jones, but hard to copy
Andre Morain - Barges on the Thames (its in my local art gallery)
Ernst Kirchner- Self Portrait with model
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by keora
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One I would definitely choose is Vincent Van Gogh, such a short turbulent life, and the different styles he produced are quite something. The most famous work he produced was painted from his hospital window, The Starry Night, a great energy in the sky, some say it's his masterpiece. I also like Potato Eaters, this is just one of the many painting he produced to portray the depravity and struggle of what was called then the lower classes, or peasants, he wanted the viewer to see the dirt under their nails.. Another favourite is the Sower, he did a few of these, such movement.
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Controversial opinions where and always will be part of the art world. If Daisy wants to highlight this then maybe the work of Edouard Manet would fit the bill, maybe the painting 'Olympia' that caused a storm of anger at the Salon of 1865 or Luncheon on the grass, refused at the Salon 1863, and under the title, Le bain, again refused at the Salon des Refuses in the same year.
Reading about artists through the ages many friends were made and lost through their differences, is quite a read.
Often ridiculed and laughed at, they certainly have their place in history, and I wonder now if we are able to find the next budding artist/s who will command the same fame with a different approach to art. There's a thread about digital art, love it or hate it its here to stay. maybe we should be paying a bit more attention to this form of art...just in case.
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by carol
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In which case Daisy you might think about selecting those works that caused the greatest 'storm' in their time; the most controversial that is, or that were the most significant. Monet's Impression, Sunrise for example, which is where the name came from. Problem there is that they didn't all cause a storm but slipped quietly under the door you might say. Post-imp. would, I suppose have to be Cezanne and following my logic, probably one of the still-life works, because of the way they depict space—others might say the portraits, but this is my opinion. Fauvism; I don't know; I don't care for Fauvist works so I give little attention to them. Matiisse is the obvious I suppose. Expressionism, I wouldn't disagree with Munch and The Scream although I prefer Schiele and it could be argued that his work has been more influential in the long term.
If the theme is how art changed it would make some kind of sense to pick works that best illustrate that change (in which case Munch would do better than Schiele). Research what the established view is on the when/where/who of the change and pick the generally agreed most siginificant. I think that's what I would do.
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If, Daisy presents each artist she chooses at a specific time during their career, and doesn't overlap any of them, highlighting first the conflict between the official artists - Pompiers- and the impressionists, and why the Salon des Refuses was set up, always the political angle even in those days, I think she'll do well.
All the best, Daisy.
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How painting has changed since 1860 is about much more than individual artists being attached - without, generally, their choosing to be attached - to different art movements. The major changes were at least in part technical - van Gogh, for example, would never have tried his later paintings without the newer colours being introduced, because they would have been impossible to achieve. Some paintings were relatively small by comparison with earlier works, at least in part because until the advent of the Impressionists, few painters painted out of doors, all of their work was in the studio rather than en plein air. Handling a huge canvas outside can be hazardous - and at the same time, people's rooms became smaller, the provincial art collector replacing the nobility in their chateaux.
I don't suggest you turn your study into a technical analysis of paint chemistry, but you may earn a brownie point or two from indicating some of the practical reasons why painting "changed" - artists took advantage of new materials and colours; and in the process, some of them lost the craft of the classical painters (which is why some 400 year old paintings are in better condition than 50 or 100 year old paintings. Malevich's black square painting, the title of which I forget, is in highly distressed condition - had, say, Rubens painted it, it probably wouldn't be, for example).
However - if you concentrate on the individual artists, yes to van Gogh, who probably embodied the change of approach more than anyone else, because he changed during his own career, and take a look at Dérain, as one of your Fauvists.