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I am quite impressed at the furore caused by my post. It always amazes me as to how easily conflict arises in a discussion leading to a debate at which a forum can become a courtroom, or even worse a Prime Minister's question time. Finding justification for fixed personal ideas and prejudices should not be necessary among reasonable people.
Just a plea for questions which genuinely ask for information rather than providing a platform for dogmatic statements based upon a fixed point of view is all I ask from any forum, tempered with a little human fellow feeling and courtesy.
John
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Just reading through this thread again I have to agree with John's well expressed comments above. It does seem to me that there is a lot of knicker twisting. We all have our likes and dislikes when it comes to art and if someone doesn't like abstracts then so be it. I have a dislike of wild life portraits and paintings of so-called celebrities so we are all different.
As far as abstracts are concerned, for me at least, I do appreciate a well executed pattern or design (or whatever you want to call an abstract) when I see it; if others don't and question whether it is art or not then let them - it's their loss.
I must just add that I can't understand why some must have an image in a painting to make it acceptable but I do agree, however, about the pretentious claptrap spoken by the art fraternity and yes - my bed is also Tate bound if I can find a large enough formaldehyde tank to package it in.
Posted
Knicker twisting aside, such debate and argument (if it is intellectual rather than ignorant) causes one to question and reassess - and thats a good thing. POL seems to me to be quite courteous most of the time!
Ref composition: I'd have thought even abstract art has composition, which might be subconscious on the part of the artist, yet which makes the image 'meaningful' to the viewer. I think that far from lack of image spoiling a painting, it is lack of composition. This is true in photography for sure, cant see why it would be different in other art forms, maybe even dance! Perhaps I don't like abstract because I can't see the composition; I am pretty sure thats why I dont like jazz...nothing to help me on the journey. Just a thought.
D
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Words, Words, Words art should be free of them! Fine Art is all about an aesthetic experience, a sensation. Picasso made a telling explanation of his own work The Artist's function is to create new forms. Once a form is created it is there to live it's own life.The new form either excites you or it doesn't. If it doesn't move on – for the time being – until your visual perception becomes more refined. <p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">The Bauhaus was a school of design set up by Walter Gropius in Weimar in1919 which became very influential in creating new teaching methods based on the Basic Elements of Design. These are Line, Shape, Colour, Tone and Texture. They play a part in describing forms in Figurative Painting but they live a life of their own in Non-figurative work
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David Blackburn is my favourite non figurative painter who works entirely in Pastel. Here's an example of his work.
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I find it VERY much depends on the abstract.. or, perhaps. the level of abstraction.
The pictures of squiggles of colour or splashes of paint a-la Pollock, or the "painted by farting it out of my butt" paintings or the "penis painting" just make me go a loud "MEH!"
But the abstracts with detail - mandala-style, or the massive maze types... captivate me!
Posted
Music is in the ear of the listener and art in the eye of the beholder. Abstract art if it touches an emotion and makes me want to look again it works for me. Technique and ability fly out of the window as long as it touches something within me. Music, I suppose something similar. I enjoy a lot of Classical music, but really love War of the Worlds with Richard Burton narrating and Jeff Waynes music. It is a bit different from Star Wars Syd and in my opinion a classic in its own right. I also love the Beatles , the Stones. Queen and Bob Marley to name a few. So, like Abstract art isnt it how individiuals perceive it?.
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"Channels" - as in "spirit channelling", calling upon another force to connect two minds.. that sort of thing. It had a capitol "C" because the words was at the start of a sentence. Note too - "Queen" as in the band and "queen" as in a 70's semi-derogatory term of a homosexual man. I say " semi-derogatory" as it can't be too bad a word - they called themselves "queens"!
Maybe i should have said "I'm now channelling Louie Spence:"
Louie Spence is a UK well-known-ish TV dancer/choreographer.. and is unashamedly, somewhat overtly *, gay. (* Overtly in that he does do the "gay voice", the high pitched squeals and camp actions).
At least no-one took issue with what was just a silly joke - thanks!
Just to explain the joke ("if it needs explaining then it wasn't funny", damn...):
"very loud Queen while decorating is perfect." - loud music from the band OR a loud gay man singing or dancing... hence, "channelling" Louie Spence
Invoking whichever Goddess is listening - a nature goddess will do, or a goddess of beauty...
The damn joke fell flat on its face... broke its nose and crawled away crying... oh well...
"Nice ceiling in this room"
*walks away, whistling*
The damn joke fell flat on its face... broke its nose and crawled away crying... oh well...
"Nice ceiling in this room"
*walks away, whistling*
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by Fluffbutt