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Dennis Spicer

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New painting up. Is it ready to be abandoned? Don't know yet.... http://www.painters-online.co.uk/userfiles/gallery/IMG_5701_216572.jpg
With Sarah, Phil, Ellen, Rose the dentist, and the granddaughter whose name I forget.

Robert Jones, Napa

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Could you take a photo of the tube and post it?  I don't quite understand why a Winsor and Newton product would have been made in France.

Michael Robinson

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yes they are made in France ,,I thought every one knew . the works was moved a while ago

Michael Robinson

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Robert your not on your own with the amoxcillin I have been in bed three days and they have not kicked in yet ,,,.luckily I got the locum doctor (that's why I have not been on the forum ,)well must get back in bed,,so take a care everyone

Mick Saunders

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Mmmm, yes, I've just seen on my latest tube of oil colour - MADE IN FRANCE.  time for a change I think, I'm not here to support the French economy.  Yes, the Rowney site says that they manufacture and export to 90 countries from their Bracknel site, so all new tubes will come from Rowneys for me in the future.  They have three manufacturing sites, two in the UK, colours and boards, and one in the Domincan Republic, brushes.bestMick
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Robert Jones, Napa

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Again - you lives and learns ...  it's a while since I bought a W & N tube of paint; I must consult their website.  And Alan - hope you get over your infection soon!

Michael Robinson

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apparently they needed a biger site .the paint is still the same formula .I am not sure about the new tube colours ect .I hope they will still print whats in the bottle on the their labels though .because a lot of others dont , dayler rowneys labeling is good and their artists watercolours are good ,I know certain colours are ochres like raw sienna but most makers are using the same ingredients like ochre and various oxides ,and black to make vandyke ,and .sepia/..perhaps they cant catch enough squid,, //Joke,// . oh well back to my vast studio ,int back kitchen ' mi cumishiuns are blocking mi way tut sink ..JOKE JOKE
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Robert Jones, Napa

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Sharp practice in the selling of watercolours?  Well if that's not a sure sign of the decline of civilization, I don't know what is.....  W & N, like all companies, will come under pressure to reduce the amount of heavy metals in their paint - but so far as I know, the cadmiums are still available from them and their range hasn't reduced.  I shall take a look at the Jacksons Art site to confirm that - it doesn't make a lot of sense on the face of it; if W & N paint is now produced in France, well so is Sennelier; and they still offer cadmiums....<div> </div><div>Complicated old business, this painting.....</div><div> </div>

Michael Robinson

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I had an e mail from jacksons saying they had a sale of winsor and newton 14mil artist watercolors the prices seem quite reasonable ,, but,I was wondering , are those prices quoted before or after vat,,,,, or would I find out at checkout ..
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Robert Jones, Napa

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Got the same email - I don't know the answer, but even if there is VAT on top, the prices are a lot lower than I can find in the shops (the SAA might be a different matter, I don't know; I haven't shopped there yet).  Your bringing this thread back to life reminds me that I was going to look to see if W & N still make cadmium colours, as I was sure they did: and of course - they do.  

Paul Farnes

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I am gradually moving to Artists quality watercolour paints and to pigments that are as transparent as possible. I bought a small tube of W+N Raw Sienna. I test each new paint I get and despite their Raw Sienna supposedly being transparent, it turned out to be the most opaque pigment I've tested. The 'contact us' part of W+N website gives an address and email contact in USA. I complained that I only bought the paint because it was advertised as transparent and thought they would simply reply and offer to replace it. That was two weeks ago and despite sending a reminder, they haven't even bothered to reply. Great customer service!

Michael Robinson

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I am sure winsor and newton would not say a watercolor was transparent if it were not,, after all they have been making them many years some times we look at the art of the old pure watercolor artists, and think, how did they get that painting so clean and fresh .they must be using transparent paints... but that's not so is it not true. that any watercolor paint that is applied thick is not transparent ,but when applied thin is, I mean you can use acrylics thin and they are lovely and transparent I use raw sienna and it is transparent ,and its a fact all paints are opaque when thick, ,you will get used to them take your time we all did . or buy some brusho
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