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Andy, firstly you didn't say that you had produced this 'art'. You just asked if this would be considered art. It could have been an image you found on the internet for all I knew. Many people on this forum find art images and post them on here to ask people what they think of them and people reply with their opinions, so that is what it appeared to me that you were doing. You also just ask for an opinion urgently, but you didn't specify why it was urgent, so how is anyone supposed to know that you have an art project that has to be in tomorrow. We are artists on here - not mind readers.
Secondly it isn't good form to suddenly join a site and then give such a stroppy reply to someone who has left a comment. I have belonged to this forum for quite a while and I object to be spoken to like that by someone who has just joined.
If you have produced the suit as an art project, why do you need anyone to tell you whether it is art or not. If it has to be in tomorrow, aren't you leaving it a bit late to decide whether you have produced the right project.
I confess to be totally baffled as to your motive in posting this thread, but if anyone else replies, perhaps you could consider being a little more polite to them.
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There are a lot of original, ideas around which have given their creators a lot of publicity and made them very rich. ( eg unmade beds, piles of bricks, cows in formaldehyde etc ) and I take my hat off to them for what they achieved. However the work shows no artistic interpretation and I would not, therefore, class it as art but it is a debate that will never be concluded!
I am afraid from what I have seen, this image falls into that category.
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Thank you for all of your responses. I knew that what I posted would receive answers that were perhaps a little sceptical but it was merely a small experiment. I left it at quite short notice because this research is not fundamental simply an aspect that would have added some more character to my work. I am studying a well known artist named Joseph Beuys who did with his suit what I did with mine, i.e. this was not an original idea but an artistic response for my studies. I would also like to say that this is not all that I do. As part of doing this as a subject, I get plenty of opportunities to pick up a pencil or 'charcoal'. With regards to Thea, my 'stroppy message' was only response to such a sarcastic remark from yourself, regarding the drycleaners. I am still a very new member and thought that I would be helpfully accomodated when asking for urgent help but of course, perhaps you could understand why I would be a little defensive if what I got in reply was a joke. I am sorry for any unpoliteness but this simply had to be said. Anyhow, as I said at the beginning this was an experiment, with a suit, not my life's work.
Thanks again
and I probably won't be returning to this forum as it was a one off scenario.
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The things that go on when you're out at a meeting - came home, had my mackerel fillets, had a snooze: and then this thread suddenly appears... now, Andy: if it hit the others as it's hit me, the response IS likely to be a) what the hell, b) who the hell, and c) why the hell. Which you sort of got.<div>
</div><div>The answer that came to me eventually though was that it could be art, given a context; otherwise it is just a rather funereal suit hanging on a white door with a nice, old-fashioned wooden clothes-hanger which I'd quite like if you've finished with it.... You didn't give a context, though; maybe the question, the way and where you've posed it and illustrated it, is the artwork - submit the lot and see if it enhances your marks...</div><div>
</div><div>If you're the same Andy who has contributed to the blog page, and also posted some interesting paintings, come back to the Forum now and then: you have something to say. People couldn't see the whites of your eyes on this occasion, and didn't know what you were springing on them - especially as we've been rather heavily assaulted by spammers just lately; makes you suspicious. </div><div>
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Andy - I don't think my response was sarcastic at all. It was just a light-hearted response to a rather strangely worded question about something that at first came over to me as a joke. I am sorry if you think I wasn't taking the whole thing seriously enough but you have to see others point of view over this. You bound onto the site, demand our urgent attention and then show us a suit hanging on the back of a door?? Under the circumstances, I don't think my quip deserved such a waspish reply from you.
However, if what you really wanted was an evaluation of this 'installation' I will give you my serious opinion. Anything is art if it is thought up with a creative mind and then executed to describe that thought. Whether it is relevant or good art is quite another matter of course. I think the question you were really asking was if the suit hanging on the back of the door was good art - and my answer, from my own perspective, is that it isn't. Good art to me makes you look at a subject in a new and unique way. With your suit, I was just looking at the back of my bedroom door when my husband hangs a suit or jacket there, so nothing new there, nothing different. If you had done something startling with the suit, i.e. put huge rips in it so that the viewer wondered what or who had caused them or altered the suit in a way to suggest some sort of story about it, then I would have been more impressed and it would have told me something different about it.
Perhaps then it would have been nudging closer to good art.
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