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Linda Wilson

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Can you use oil pencils on top of oil paintings for fine details?
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Robert Jones, NAPA

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Do you mean oil pastels?  I'm not sure what oil pencils are. 

Sylvia Evans

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Robert I think maybe there are oil pencils on the market now but not too sure,  Linda I would be wary with doing that if you want to varnish your painting later .  I once used oil pastels then varnish....big no no . They just smeared  and messed up .  I suppose you could if you don’t want to varnish.  I’d have a practice first.  Though in my book anything goes . 
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Linda Wilson

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Derwent have a new range of lightfast oil pencils.  The full range are very expensive so I don't want to pay a lot and find out that it will not do what I want.  I'v never got the hang of oil pastels.  Can you varnish over these pencils could be another question for Jacksons.

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Those sound interesting Linda . Do let us all know how they are.  
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Robert Jones, NAPA

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This thread was supposed to have been closed, because the Ask Jackson's feature was ended - they won't (presumably) be looking at the questions.  As to 'oil pencils', I'll look 'em up: but would want to know what they consist of - if it's largely or partly wax, I wouldn't mix them with oil paint, or try varnishing over them.  But presumably Derwent give advice on their product?
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Robert Jones, NAPA

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I've looked them up - on Derwent's web-site.  They have an oil core, but also contain wax - I would NOT use them with oil paint, though you can use them with oil solvents (Derwent are recommending Zest-it, but I suspect that's for environmental reasons rather than any technical specification: white spirit, turps/Sansodor, or any other solvent, should work just as well).   They seem to be, fundamentally, a more accurate and controllable form of oil pastel, to be used as coloured pencils, not as another tool for oil painting as such.  
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Linda Wilson

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Thanks Robert - that will save me a lot of cash.