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@Denise: yes, you're right, it's my very first portrait...an attempt. And orcs are nice too...sometimes... @Skylar: that's a good tip! thank U! @Carol: No I do not want that. thanks for respecting. @Paul: Thank you for your very good input regarding fear :) @Sylvia: I think about it often, hehe :)
Tanja G. on 04/03/2024 19:15:31
Well I can honestly say that I have never met one!  Thank you for sharing your Hobbit art. The road to self-satisfaction in Art is littered with abandoned works and paint splodges :-) 

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by James Robert Endeacott

You can still save this - they say you can't correct watercolours, but - you can.  Mindful of Skylar's advice, with which I agree, you could carefully wash some of your paint off with clean water, blot it away without scrubbing at the paper, and reinstate the drawing when dry.   There may be a limit to how many times you can do this - but there are watercolourists far better than I who have plunged a whole painting into the bath to wash the bulk of the paint away (it will be a problem with dye-based colours, like Prussian and Pthalo Blue, and Pthalo Green - but it doesn't look as if you used those). Take a look at Charles Evans' watercolour videos on YouTube - in several of them, he tackles (rather forcefully) the idea that you can't alter a watercolour once painted.  He also has a book on correcting mistakes in watercolour - along with many others.  You might alternatively want to save yourself the faff, and start all over again - if you do, then yes: get a drawing in that will help you to establish the forms; you could strengthen it with either waterproof ink (like a Unipin - look out for the words "pigment ink" - or Indian or carbon black; even a coloured ink; I like to use the FW brown inks) or an optical black watercolour on a fine brush.  
You can, as Robert quite rightly points out, salvage a watercolour. The addition of gouache generally does the trick for me. If it gets to the stage that you need to immerse the whole sheet of paper into a tub of water, my advice is to just start again afresh… It’s never easy or successful to retrieve a bad watercolour… and I speak from experience here!
You could always jump in and give yourself a spruce-up at the same time!  But no - I agree with Alan, I wouldn't actually go to those lengths - much quicker to start all over again.    I've got a book somewhere, not Charles Evans', as it happens, in which the wash-off technique is demonstrated; but - I've got a lot of books... quite where it is I don't know without launching a search.  It just occurs to me though, while wittering on as one does - there are acrylics which can save a watercolour, not only gouache.  But choose those acrylics carefully - you need one capable of great dilution: Chromacolour has saved a few of my watercolours, and I've painted in Chromacolour so that you can hardly tell the difference: though I think a very searching look would give it away.  I think it's still the case that you can only buy Chromacolour from their website - I've used them quite a bit, and they've been very satisfactory. Still - I know some of us would scorn such measures, and inist on sticking to pure watercolour; and I do respect that.  It is unique.  
Thanks you all for your good tips about saving watercolor! In fact, the view I was previously told is that a watercolor can never be “repaired”! My own biological father (artist) used to say back in his day: Every line you paint is finished, irreparable and inevitable - and that used to really cause panic in me, help, every line has to be right, you can't do anything wrong - terrible. If you had told me back then, hey, go into the bathtub with your "work" or take it into the shower and see what happens; I would have been very grateful, but yes, it was a different time back then :) I'd rather start a new sheet of paper; and just keep this as it is now.
A good thought, to start again, Tanja. Keep your original. Always good to look back at your work, if you think its good or not so good. Its a good indication to see how your work has progressed, and even if the stye of your work has altered.

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by Carol Jones

Yes that's a good tip keep the old one, then repaint it again in 12 month's time but don't look at the old painting until you have finish the new painting you will be amazed at the Progress and style you have changed in a year.
OK, I think I have to start somewhere else, I'm having a lot of trouble with watercolor for a portrait. I'm now starting to draw faces with 3 different gray pencils and 3 brown tones, normal colored pencils from Caran D'ache. So I hatch the shadow areas and learn to "differentiate"... and then maybe I can still do a few blobs of watercolor. Well, I'm not proud, I'm more likely to let my pants down here.......but you give me the courage to even dare to take portraits :) WIP ......... and WFK
This portrait is a great start Tanja! Look forward to watching it’s progress. Portraits are not the easiest of subjects , I have started dabbling with them over the past twelve months both in acrylics and charcoal. Just keep having a go!
That is a superb sketch to work from Tanja , I think portraits in watercolour are really challenging probably why I don’t do then but I do love to see them . I’m sure you will make a great job of it and learn so much in the process. 
Looking good, Tanja.
A very positive start Tanja, well done.
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