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A comment by Marjorie Firth on my latest posting made me stop and think. Not my usual thing, she said, and added we don't always post everything we do. Well, that's most certainly true for me - I produce many drawings, in ink, pencil, crayon, plus sketches in watercolour, but post only a fraction of them. I always love to see other people's drawings, but for whatever reason have assumed no one would want to see mine (including me). Is it, I wonder, because at the back of my mind when posting I always have a possible sale in mind (rarely achieved....); and don't believe anyone will buy drawings?
Well - asking a bit much for you to delve into the quite foggy corridors of my mind. However, what do you think about putting drawings on the Gallery? I know Alan Bickley does, and some of our pen and ink artists: but I mix up my media quite a bit; I've just done a drawing with black, bistre, sanguine and white conté crayon, disinterred an ancient box of Faber NuPastel (which they stopped making years ago) and applied the colours I have left, then added some brush pen (a recent discovery). (Fixative essential here, or I'd have ended up with a mass of coloured dust.)
I'll bung it on the gallery in a day or so, but have to warn you that many of my drawing are dark, foreboding, and perhaps a touch on the melodramatic side: that's probably another reason for holding them back: a subconscious concern that what people want to see is bright, cheerful, colourful, and not indicative of the inner mental processes of a bipolar.....
I know I've been largely talking to myself here! But it does help to give my brain a shake, especially when people respond. I'm going to post more drawings anyway, nothing can stop me now, hee hee, har de har har.... But don't hesitate to say if you think them bleak.
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I agree in principle… I only post around a fifth of my output and always only one per day, and definitely not every day! Sometimes just one per week if that!
Why? Because I’m cautious about overloading the gallery with too much of my work, so preliminary drawings/sketches etc, of which I can often accumulate a great many over a week, don’t even get considered.
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I like to see drawings in the gallery as I think it gives a different perspective on the artists work . I wouldn’t like to see jut any old drawing , work in progress etc but certainly a finished or near finished piece would make a great change to paintings . There are several people who put really well put together drawings on the gallery some mostly portraits from talented artists like Jiri to name one I look forward to seeing and the pen work that Bari often posts .I do prefer the loose type colour sketch’s that are posted and I do have Alan in mind here . It surprises me how many people don’t think as drawing in the same way as they do painting often it’s seen as a lesser art form lots of people in the beginner groups thst I sometimes lead are quit shock when I talk about the importance of sketches and taking the time to develop drawings skill. Sorry Robert I have digressed , must be catching .
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by Paul (Dixie) Dean
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I have totally contrasting styles that I consider to be drawings … I’ve shown two examples below!
I have the looser more sketchy plein air one of pylons which is in ink, around 3 minutes or so - the Hastings trawler is a more detailed studio piece using carbon pencil, reference my plein air sketch book, about 45 mins, but they’re both drawings! I’m assuming that a drawing doesn’t have to be in pencil! I’m not sure that this is a drawing now I’ve had another think about it, but I can’t delete it.
As Robert has said… ‘what’s a finished drawing’?
Or are we just overthinking things here… probably!
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by Alan Bickley
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Everything I do is a drawing, so obviously I like to see drawings in the gallery. I have two ways of drawing. Bang...straight into it, and other times I make scribbled ideas first. I do more of the first. Ideally, I should do more of the second. But we are what we are. I don't put scribbles in the gallery, unless there's some point I'm making. On occasion, I'll put them in the forum for the same reason.
Here's a page of scribbled ideas...I wouldn't put these in the gallery...
Obviously these take seconds to make.
Here's another scribbling for ideas scrap of paper...
Impossible to get a decent image of this, it's done of thin scrap paper with something else on the back. Of no interest to anyone but me...and then only for a few moments while I resolve something. Then it's in the bin.
I love to see other people's drawings and sketchbooks. Alan's 3 minute sketch above appeals, because he effortlessly draws things I struggle with.
So yes more drawings please Robert.
Obviously these take seconds to make.
Here's another scribbling for ideas scrap of paper...
Impossible to get a decent image of this, it's done of thin scrap paper with something else on the back. Of no interest to anyone but me...and then only for a few moments while I resolve something. Then it's in the bin.
I love to see other people's drawings and sketchbooks. Alan's 3 minute sketch above appeals, because he effortlessly draws things I struggle with.
So yes more drawings please Robert.
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I don’t think there is a hard and fast rule needed. We all work in different ways. If I am producing a painting I don’t normally do preparatory sketches or drawings, I go straight in with the brush. Therefore I don’t have the same stages as some obviously do for the same end product. If I draw, it’s something different.
I agree with Lew, I would like to see more drawings on the gallery, but not necessarily ’scribbles’.
I think this is one of those discussions where we all more or less agree, and to me a finished drawing is one I am happy with and don’t want to do any more to.
A finished painting? Well that’s another matter, and one I find somewhat harder to decide!
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by Tessa Gwynne
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Not entirely sure what a "drawing " is . We all draw in one medium or another those drawings of Alan's are obviously drawings and beautifully done. I draw with a brush at the start of a painting, I draw in my sketch book, I draw with my coloured pencils....so maybe I'm becoming obtuse ....sorry Robert child, I'm pulling the age thingy.
Nice teasels Denise, funnily enough I almost posted Teasels.
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by Sylvia Evans
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