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I saw this wonderful pastel painting of a Border Collie on the forum by Nicola Monaghan. What hit me (outside of the wonderful skill of the artist), was the colours, shapes etc that made me half close my eyes and see it afresh. Still sitting at my p.c I picked up a brush, pen, pencil hardly without thinking about it. I just had a desire to paint what I saw on screen. It took me about 40 minutes or so, pad on knee, using watercolour and water thinned acrylic to paint my version/style of Nicola's collie. My materials/mediums, paper and size are all different to hers and in no way meant as anything for the gallery (why I'm posting it here) and no further, that should be very obvious to the viewer....so am I copying something or, as I said, just painting what I saw since I had no intention of otherwise? (If Nicola reads this forum I hope she fully understands that and isn't offended) . I know it won't be agreed with, but everything we do that isn't our imagination is some form of copying as unless we start using tape measures and magnifying glasses, where do we sin? Here is my painted version...
Jim.
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I don't suppose the copying 'is-it-right-or-wrong' thing will ever go away. I don't see any problem with it (but the copyright aspect can be problematical), I read a lot about modern professional artists and copying from something seems pretty universal. I've just watched a documentary about Paula Rego (an artist I admire), her studio is stuffed with objects that she copies in her paintings. She wanted to do a painting of Pinocchio, and got a sculptor/model maker to make his version of the Pinocchio figure which she copied for her painting. OK, she had his permission, but it's still copying. The resulting painting was 100% pure Rego. Photos are reference material, if I'm not sure what something looks like I'll refer to a photo...usually taking bits of it and, on rare occasions, all of it. Nicola's painting inspired you to reproduce it in your own way. I would have thought that it would please her. (??). I'd say about two thirds of the gallery is copied from something, and why not? I don't like the same old photos of celebrities being copied over and over again, but that's just my personal view.
I promised myself that the next time this 'copying-right-or-wrong' bus came along, that I won't jump on it....but I have. It's irresistible.
Lew.
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I think all the answers are helpful, and thanks for that. I'm still not totally sure what "copying" actually means outside of fraudulent attempts to pass someone else's work off as you own. My views are slightly restricted to a certain type/style of painting to a degree as total photographic art is of no interest to me personally (that doesn't mean I don'f fully appreciate the skills of those who paint that way, just that I don't support Manchester United either 😆) . The idea of making something be a micro accurate replica of something else has no appeal at all; pointless in fact. There is also the fact that people commenting (or not as the case may be) on others work is down to personal preference rather than anything carved in stone. I think this particularly relevant on a site such as this with a very wide assortment of readers and contributors. Elsie Higgins can look just the same as the Rokeby Venus as long as she's naked, rear end view, looking in a mirror and with a red curtain in the background. Angels are optional as nobody knows what they look like anyway, but tanning salons are out..
Okay, then, thanks all and back to that "Girl with a Pearl Earring" I'm currently working on. :blush:.........:hehe:
Jim.
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Im always copying something because I struggle to originate. Always have. once I am inspired I am off, but the start eludes me (except when I am writing). Most of my painting is copied from my own photos, some from someone else artwork to which I add my twist. Can there really be truly original artwork any more??
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Can't find where to add a new topic, so asking to be excused for using this area.
After quite a lot of years my p.c. suddenly won't accept my camera ( a Sony Cybershot) images? I've changed nothing yet when I try to bring up photos of my work I keep getting a File system error message. I've tried everything in the way of advice online with no luck. Why, after all this time won't my camera and p.c. link? My own view is that it's Microsoft screwing things up. I'm totally stumped and one of my real pleasures in life is gone. I can only hope my son, who is coming up tomorrow, can sort it out. )-:
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I hope he gets it sorted out for you Jim . I had a similar problem with my old laptop a few years ago I did the sand a you asked for online advice but nothing worked . My son in law who is very good with computers etc had a look and asked a friend a professional IT specialist it seems the issue was the software was no longer supported by Microsoft and the computer wasn’t worth the cost of upgrading. I use it still to looked at photos I stored on CDs as the more modern computers no longer have the facilities, good news is my family bought me a Chromebook this Christmas so I can transfer from the discs to memory sticks that are compatible with my iPad as well . It’s abut of a palaver as I need to take the photos from my camera to my old laptop then to the memory sticks but I can still use it and that’s what I wanted without buying a new very expensive camera.
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It may sound a bit noddy Jim, but if the problem is the camera and PC don't communicate when connected by a cable......have you tried taking the SD card out of the camera and plugging it directly into a port on your PC or a card reader? If you don't have a port or reader see if a friend has because if it works, you can get a card reader for less then ten quid.
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Microsoft does odd things now and then - suddenly, I couldn't open JPG files on my desktop just the other day, until I tried Open With on the dropdown menu, and got them to open in one of my photo editing applications - I expect your son will be able to sort you out, Jim, don't worry: and maybe you can send him my way too!
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