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This is a much smaller copy of a painting I sold some years ago. I'm trying to paint too small here (8" by 10") for my present eyesight problem - I think there are several things wrong with it - I won't tell you what I think is amiss, so as not to lead you astray. But I should be very interested in your suggestions. The painting on which it's based was, if I say so as shouldn't, not at all bad. But this one has what Wikipedia would call "multiple issues".
So I'm bearing me soul here! See what you think. 
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Okay Robert, I'll start it off. The composition is fine, can't fault that but the whole thing is a bit lacking in aerial perspective. I know that it is evening but it needs some more depth. The highlights on the sea are good but there are too many over too large an area, loses the impact, and where are they coming from?, one small obscured sun... but... it has potential and needs a bit of fine tuning to give it the wow factor.
Well, you did ask and I am always honest.
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The red ribbon in the horizon leaps out and dominates - might help if it's knocked back a bit and graduated or even done away with. Regarding the flatness of the sea I would be inclined to lower the horizon line to, say, half way up the white cliff face. Agree with Phil about the white middle ground road .
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I could have sworn I posted an answer, thanking Alan for his points (and agreeing with them) - I must have failed to click on post; that's the eye again, that is!
Anyway -- thanks all, and yes these are good points. I agree with the other points too - in my original painting, I didn't use that harsh red in the sky, not that this is the only problem with it.
Keep 'em coming.
http://www.isleofwightlandscapes.net
http://www.wightpaint.blogspot.co.uk
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OK - First to say... I LIKE IT.
Problems:
The sun is setting yet there are no real shadows in the cove rocks and foreground.
There is a nice horixon line through the sun but it disappears and the sea looks 2D into the sky.
This was a quick and dirty rough fix - I darkened the various shadow areas and burnt the colour a little along a made-up horizon line.
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by DippyDipper
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Yer right, Dippy - thanks for that.
PS - This has been very useful to me - I wasn't on the spot, of course - in this sort of light I couldn't have seen a perishing thing. I should probably have modelled the painting more closely on my original, which was in a much longer format and worked much better (on a very much smoother surface).
But that wouldn't have been anything like as interesting.
http://www.isleofwightlandscapes.net
http://www.wightpaint.blogspot.uk
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by RobertJones
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Coming back quickly - I really don't like painting sunsets: because whatever you do, you can't compete, and no one has ever competed, with the brilliance of colour the sky offers - I don't think it's possible, and of course you have the problem that the brighter the sunlight, the darker the land-mass tends to be: here, the trouble is largely (I think) that the two compete - ie, as stated, the tonal values are wrong.
I do however quite like painting dusk - the original picture (it's on my gallery somewhere) was really a dusk painting, the colours were far more muted: here, I've hit the Cad Red - that alone (as Michael has observed) throws everything out and isn't a dusk colour. Phil - as he's shown with a posting in another thread - can manage brilliant colour: it works with his method of painting, but doesn't really work with mine.
So, work to be done! If I can squeeze it in this week between a) having to write an article; b) undergoing dental treatment; c) attending a long meeting - this life of leisure I had planned doesn't seem to be quite working out...
Most grateful for all these suggestions.
http://www.isleofwightlandscapes.net
http://www.wightpaint.blogspot.co.uk
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To be honest I could make a few sugestions but when one looks through Roberts gallery .I am gobsmacked . he,s a master of oils and acrylic painting and could very well be writing a small editorial each week in a painters magazine ,that would be an asset to artists .. or maybe his opinion on contributed work by amatuers ,in his very able writing style .monthly .
alan
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The trick is not to even try to compete with real life.
A painting of a sunset is YOU - how you feel about it put into watercolours (or whatever). It's your feelings of joy, loneliness, elation, tiredness... whatever... in paint.
(That's one fo the reasons I;m not that keen on realism and photo-realistic paintings - not much feeling in the painting.
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